1 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:03,880 [Music] 2 00:00:09,430 --> 00:00:06,850 [Applause] 3 00:00:28,830 --> 00:00:09,440 [Music] 4 00:00:34,950 --> 00:00:31,669 hey this is another episode of ufo 5 00:00:38,470 --> 00:00:34,960 garage i'm ben and i'm joe and this is 6 00:00:41,910 --> 00:00:38,480 where we talk about ufos aliens and 7 00:00:45,670 --> 00:00:41,920 all things weird weird 8 00:00:48,549 --> 00:00:45,680 yeah what's up dude dude 9 00:00:49,750 --> 00:00:48,559 not a lot man not a lot not a lot but 10 00:00:51,029 --> 00:00:49,760 you know what 11 00:00:52,069 --> 00:00:51,039 freaking excited 12 00:00:54,549 --> 00:00:52,079 heck yeah 13 00:00:56,549 --> 00:00:54,559 i'm excited to uh to talk to our guest 14 00:00:58,310 --> 00:00:56,559 who do tall yeah dude we're gonna get 15 00:01:00,150 --> 00:00:58,320 into all things weird tonight dude it's 16 00:01:01,910 --> 00:01:00,160 going to be awesome 17 00:01:05,270 --> 00:01:01,920 you're looking quite handsome by the way 18 00:01:07,590 --> 00:01:05,280 oh thank you i put my jesus suit on 19 00:01:10,870 --> 00:01:07,600 dude that's that is that is jesus's 20 00:01:13,750 --> 00:01:10,880 favorite favorite color by the way it is 21 00:01:16,230 --> 00:01:13,760 uh and you know why why 22 00:01:18,789 --> 00:01:16,240 uh it's cause uh it's 23 00:01:21,670 --> 00:01:18,799 uh he was a carpenter so trees 24 00:01:25,670 --> 00:01:21,680 have leaves and they are green as well 25 00:01:27,350 --> 00:01:25,680 as my shirt is green it's blue buddy 26 00:01:28,469 --> 00:01:27,360 it's a greenish blue 27 00:01:31,990 --> 00:01:28,479 turquoise 28 00:01:34,469 --> 00:01:32,000 this is not blue dude this is blue bro 29 00:01:35,990 --> 00:01:34,479 okay you got me you got me on that one 30 00:01:38,469 --> 00:01:36,000 what color is that 31 00:01:41,749 --> 00:01:38,479 yeah gonna say the sky's blue too 32 00:01:44,230 --> 00:01:41,759 yeah of course i am 33 00:01:45,990 --> 00:01:44,240 you're hilarious thanks man i try what 34 00:01:48,230 --> 00:01:46,000 is up everybody in the chat how are 35 00:01:49,749 --> 00:01:48,240 y'all doing tonight uh 36 00:01:53,510 --> 00:01:49,759 we're for a treat man this is gonna be a 37 00:01:55,190 --> 00:01:53,520 lot of fun i'm super excited uh we gotta 38 00:01:58,310 --> 00:01:55,200 we got a we got a guy on that we 39 00:02:01,109 --> 00:01:58,320 actually met uh out in sedona 40 00:02:02,709 --> 00:02:01,119 and uh you know he was he was you know 41 00:02:05,030 --> 00:02:02,719 talking about you know 42 00:02:07,990 --> 00:02:05,040 filming a lot of stuff and hanging out 43 00:02:09,270 --> 00:02:08,000 at bradshaw ranch and this and that and 44 00:02:11,110 --> 00:02:09,280 you know we just kind of met him at a 45 00:02:12,150 --> 00:02:11,120 little party while we were also doing 46 00:02:14,070 --> 00:02:12,160 filming 47 00:02:15,990 --> 00:02:14,080 and uh man we all ended up hooking up 48 00:02:17,990 --> 00:02:16,000 hanging out not hooking up you know like 49 00:02:20,390 --> 00:02:18,000 you know but like you know like we ended 50 00:02:22,309 --> 00:02:20,400 up hanging out and uh driving out to 51 00:02:24,150 --> 00:02:22,319 bradshaw ranch and and looking around 52 00:02:26,869 --> 00:02:24,160 that place together at night that was 53 00:02:28,869 --> 00:02:26,879 super cool right that was pretty badass 54 00:02:29,990 --> 00:02:28,879 and then uh and then he showed up in 55 00:02:31,350 --> 00:02:30,000 vegas 56 00:02:32,869 --> 00:02:31,360 and so 57 00:02:34,229 --> 00:02:32,879 you know that was pretty awesome we got 58 00:02:36,869 --> 00:02:34,239 to hang out with him in vegas and then 59 00:02:39,509 --> 00:02:36,879 come to find out he had just dropped 60 00:02:43,110 --> 00:02:39,519 his documentary yeah the documentary is 61 00:02:44,869 --> 00:02:43,120 called hoodoo tall so joining us today 62 00:02:46,630 --> 00:02:44,879 to talk about the documentary and just 63 00:02:49,190 --> 00:02:46,640 all things weird in general man let's 64 00:02:51,589 --> 00:02:49,200 welcome who do tall on man 65 00:02:53,670 --> 00:02:51,599 yeah hey thanks guys good to see you 66 00:02:55,670 --> 00:02:53,680 again good to see you too man how you 67 00:02:58,390 --> 00:02:55,680 doing this evening 68 00:03:00,309 --> 00:02:58,400 can't complain it's uh always a joy when 69 00:03:01,990 --> 00:03:00,319 people want me to talk about weird 70 00:03:03,430 --> 00:03:02,000 things instead of telling me i'm a 71 00:03:05,750 --> 00:03:03,440 little crazy 72 00:03:07,990 --> 00:03:05,760 isn't it man isn't it 73 00:03:09,509 --> 00:03:08,000 it definitely is it's nice to have like 74 00:03:11,990 --> 00:03:09,519 a little group that you can kind of 75 00:03:13,670 --> 00:03:12,000 bounce the ideas off of and you don't 76 00:03:15,990 --> 00:03:13,680 have to feel crazy you know what i'm 77 00:03:18,229 --> 00:03:16,000 saying yeah and that's it's new to me 78 00:03:20,309 --> 00:03:18,239 it's new to me so uh i'm definitely 79 00:03:22,550 --> 00:03:20,319 enjoying the chances i have like this to 80 00:03:23,750 --> 00:03:22,560 kind of embrace it um i tend to learn 81 00:03:25,990 --> 00:03:23,760 just as much 82 00:03:28,229 --> 00:03:26,000 from talking to guys like you that i do 83 00:03:30,229 --> 00:03:28,239 from going out in the field so yeah 84 00:03:32,390 --> 00:03:30,239 appreciate it guys yeah no problem well 85 00:03:34,710 --> 00:03:32,400 no problem well dude it your your 86 00:03:36,949 --> 00:03:34,720 documentary has been kind of blown up a 87 00:03:39,190 --> 00:03:36,959 little bit dude you reached out to 100 88 00:03:40,630 --> 00:03:39,200 000 views today 89 00:03:45,190 --> 00:03:40,640 yeah and i 90 00:03:47,190 --> 00:03:45,200 we still really are just kind of shocked 91 00:03:49,670 --> 00:03:47,200 on it not only by how many views it's 92 00:03:51,670 --> 00:03:49,680 getting but by the quality of the 93 00:03:53,270 --> 00:03:51,680 comments kind of blew me away there's 94 00:03:55,030 --> 00:03:53,280 there's some comments in there but we 95 00:03:56,789 --> 00:03:55,040 thought the length of it would put 96 00:03:59,429 --> 00:03:56,799 people off because 97 00:04:01,750 --> 00:03:59,439 this is actually four episodes of like a 98 00:04:03,429 --> 00:04:01,760 mini series put all together 99 00:04:04,550 --> 00:04:03,439 so it's like three hours and 40 minutes 100 00:04:06,309 --> 00:04:04,560 and i thought 101 00:04:08,149 --> 00:04:06,319 yeah nobody's going to sit down and 102 00:04:10,149 --> 00:04:08,159 click play on that so 103 00:04:12,789 --> 00:04:10,159 it was wild to see some of the comments 104 00:04:15,110 --> 00:04:12,799 from people who are like paralyzed 105 00:04:17,590 --> 00:04:15,120 saying that like they were so happy to 106 00:04:19,189 --> 00:04:17,600 get over three hours of enjoyment being 107 00:04:21,030 --> 00:04:19,199 able to sit around like stuff like that 108 00:04:24,390 --> 00:04:21,040 was just the biggest 109 00:04:26,390 --> 00:04:24,400 kind of shocker you know it's 110 00:04:30,230 --> 00:04:26,400 it's amazing that 111 00:04:31,990 --> 00:04:30,240 people are as into this stuff as we are 112 00:04:33,749 --> 00:04:32,000 because in my daily life it seems like 113 00:04:35,189 --> 00:04:33,759 no one's into it 114 00:04:37,189 --> 00:04:35,199 it's kind of cool 115 00:04:38,790 --> 00:04:37,199 kind of cool to post online and 116 00:04:41,189 --> 00:04:38,800 then suddenly everyone's like oh no i'm 117 00:04:43,430 --> 00:04:41,199 into it too yeah it just if dude it 118 00:04:45,670 --> 00:04:43,440 feels good when you make something and 119 00:04:47,590 --> 00:04:45,680 it makes other people happy you know 120 00:04:49,749 --> 00:04:47,600 like i mean the the you you're always 121 00:04:52,230 --> 00:04:49,759 going to get the the 122 00:04:54,230 --> 00:04:52,240 the couple uh you know negatives but oh 123 00:04:56,150 --> 00:04:54,240 yeah and that dude i mean like for the 124 00:04:57,830 --> 00:04:56,160 most part like it just feels so good to 125 00:05:00,230 --> 00:04:57,840 like create something that makes people 126 00:05:02,150 --> 00:05:00,240 happy and it's like not only that but 127 00:05:03,830 --> 00:05:02,160 it's also like encouraging other people 128 00:05:05,510 --> 00:05:03,840 to be like holy [\h__\h] you know i'm not 129 00:05:07,670 --> 00:05:05,520 the only one and that's really cool you 130 00:05:09,590 --> 00:05:07,680 know yeah yeah we're starting to bud and 131 00:05:11,270 --> 00:05:09,600 like i was saying earlier man they're 132 00:05:14,310 --> 00:05:11,280 hungry for the content you know it's 133 00:05:16,150 --> 00:05:14,320 it's three hour or four episodes worth 134 00:05:18,390 --> 00:05:16,160 um but i mean you'll sit down there's 135 00:05:20,469 --> 00:05:18,400 not much fluff either you know we one 136 00:05:21,510 --> 00:05:20,479 thing i didn't or one thing i've noticed 137 00:05:22,550 --> 00:05:21,520 watching 138 00:05:25,189 --> 00:05:22,560 as much 139 00:05:27,110 --> 00:05:25,199 stuff online or on amazon or any 140 00:05:28,950 --> 00:05:27,120 streaming services 141 00:05:31,510 --> 00:05:28,960 the shows and documentaries about these 142 00:05:34,390 --> 00:05:31,520 subjects you know cryptozoology things 143 00:05:38,150 --> 00:05:34,400 or ufos or aliens are generally 144 00:05:40,310 --> 00:05:38,160 turn out to be shows that are more about 145 00:05:42,230 --> 00:05:40,320 videotaping people telling their story 146 00:05:44,710 --> 00:05:42,240 of their encounter you know that there 147 00:05:46,790 --> 00:05:44,720 isn't really a whole lot of 148 00:05:48,150 --> 00:05:46,800 hit you in the face kind of 149 00:05:50,230 --> 00:05:48,160 kind of um 150 00:05:52,629 --> 00:05:50,240 evidence or anything and 151 00:05:54,550 --> 00:05:52,639 i was getting so much over the years 152 00:05:56,550 --> 00:05:54,560 just i you know the plan was never to 153 00:05:58,550 --> 00:05:56,560 film this i was doing this on my own to 154 00:06:01,110 --> 00:05:58,560 get some answers for myself and it was 155 00:06:02,710 --> 00:06:01,120 just so regular and 156 00:06:03,909 --> 00:06:02,720 so 157 00:06:05,749 --> 00:06:03,919 um 158 00:06:07,590 --> 00:06:05,759 i guess i could count on it every time i 159 00:06:09,510 --> 00:06:07,600 went out there it was it was going to 160 00:06:12,309 --> 00:06:09,520 happen so that's finally why i decided 161 00:06:14,790 --> 00:06:12,319 to bring cameras out but so those those 162 00:06:16,469 --> 00:06:14,800 listening um can you maybe explain what 163 00:06:19,430 --> 00:06:16,479 it is you're doing that that you start 164 00:06:22,070 --> 00:06:19,440 yeah absolutely yeah um 165 00:06:23,749 --> 00:06:22,080 it you know i had been into ufos you 166 00:06:24,790 --> 00:06:23,759 know since i was like a teenager growing 167 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:24,800 up and 168 00:06:26,390 --> 00:06:25,250 um 169 00:06:27,909 --> 00:06:26,400 [Music] 170 00:06:29,670 --> 00:06:27,919 i would always spend my nights up 171 00:06:32,309 --> 00:06:29,680 listening to coast to coast trying to 172 00:06:35,029 --> 00:06:32,319 hear any little details i could and then 173 00:06:37,029 --> 00:06:35,039 john lear became like a kind of like the 174 00:06:38,469 --> 00:06:37,039 authority figure on ufos for me when i 175 00:06:40,150 --> 00:06:38,479 was younger because you know before the 176 00:06:43,029 --> 00:06:40,160 internet and stuff there wasn't it 177 00:06:44,309 --> 00:06:43,039 wasn't easy to get information so 178 00:06:46,309 --> 00:06:44,319 it was 179 00:06:48,309 --> 00:06:46,319 just like the 180 00:06:50,390 --> 00:06:48,319 most beautiful act of synchronicity that 181 00:06:52,950 --> 00:06:50,400 i got to meet john when i was like my 182 00:06:54,870 --> 00:06:52,960 late 20s maybe or 30 and we became 183 00:06:56,790 --> 00:06:54,880 really good close friends and so i would 184 00:06:58,309 --> 00:06:56,800 go to john's house and 185 00:06:59,909 --> 00:06:58,319 um sit down with him and he would show 186 00:07:02,150 --> 00:06:59,919 me the photos that he has that he's 187 00:07:05,110 --> 00:07:02,160 collected you know and all these 188 00:07:07,430 --> 00:07:05,120 pictures of the moon and mars and 189 00:07:08,309 --> 00:07:07,440 john was there with bob lazar at the 190 00:07:10,550 --> 00:07:08,319 time 191 00:07:12,070 --> 00:07:10,560 bob was working at s4 and you know the 192 00:07:13,830 --> 00:07:12,080 government was shooting out his tires on 193 00:07:15,510 --> 00:07:13,840 the highway and stuff he was going to 194 00:07:18,550 --> 00:07:15,520 john's house after that they were you 195 00:07:19,830 --> 00:07:18,560 know best buddies kind of thing so 196 00:07:21,670 --> 00:07:19,840 um 197 00:07:24,150 --> 00:07:21,680 john had pretty much told me enough that 198 00:07:26,309 --> 00:07:24,160 i knew ufos were real at some point 199 00:07:28,150 --> 00:07:26,319 there was just too much there for me to 200 00:07:29,670 --> 00:07:28,160 think it was fake and so 201 00:07:31,830 --> 00:07:29,680 i wanted to go to a place where i could 202 00:07:34,070 --> 00:07:31,840 see them because no matter how much he 203 00:07:35,510 --> 00:07:34,080 told me it wouldn't sit right with me 204 00:07:37,430 --> 00:07:35,520 knowing the reel until i could see one 205 00:07:38,790 --> 00:07:37,440 for myself so 206 00:07:40,469 --> 00:07:38,800 um 207 00:07:43,909 --> 00:07:40,479 john told me the the reynolds from 208 00:07:45,749 --> 00:07:43,919 forest incident in 1980 he said he knew 209 00:07:48,230 --> 00:07:45,759 for sure that happened because he talked 210 00:07:50,550 --> 00:07:48,240 to guys who were on the base at the time 211 00:07:52,790 --> 00:07:50,560 and so i started with that incident and 212 00:07:54,790 --> 00:07:52,800 then found the binary code translation 213 00:07:56,790 --> 00:07:54,800 from that incident apparently the ets 214 00:07:59,029 --> 00:07:56,800 gave us a list of important places on 215 00:08:00,230 --> 00:07:59,039 the planet so i figured if i want to see 216 00:08:01,830 --> 00:08:00,240 one of these things i'll start with 217 00:08:03,990 --> 00:08:01,840 somewhere on that list 218 00:08:06,309 --> 00:08:04,000 and you know it's like um the pyramids 219 00:08:08,230 --> 00:08:06,319 in egypt and nazca lines it's these 220 00:08:10,390 --> 00:08:08,240 really crazy places and then on the list 221 00:08:12,230 --> 00:08:10,400 is sedona arizona or at least an area 222 00:08:14,150 --> 00:08:12,240 right outside of sedona so i thought 223 00:08:15,830 --> 00:08:14,160 that's you that's easy enough you know i 224 00:08:17,589 --> 00:08:15,840 can go camping and just 225 00:08:20,629 --> 00:08:17,599 if nothing else happens at least i got a 226 00:08:22,390 --> 00:08:20,639 good camp trip in and so 227 00:08:27,350 --> 00:08:22,400 i went the first 228 00:08:29,749 --> 00:08:27,360 probably um eight or nine years ago 229 00:08:31,990 --> 00:08:29,759 and i went out there to go on melinda 230 00:08:33,190 --> 00:08:32,000 leslie's tour because i was you know 231 00:08:35,110 --> 00:08:33,200 when i found out about it i was like 232 00:08:38,389 --> 00:08:35,120 okay for sure i'm doing this and that 233 00:08:40,149 --> 00:08:38,399 was tour number 333 so i mean what she's 234 00:08:43,110 --> 00:08:40,159 doing like 1500 or something now so that 235 00:08:45,030 --> 00:08:43,120 was it was a lot a good long time ago 236 00:08:47,110 --> 00:08:45,040 and we saw a lot of ufos 237 00:08:49,030 --> 00:08:47,120 um i was there for like three four days 238 00:08:51,190 --> 00:08:49,040 and we saw you know on her tour we 239 00:08:52,550 --> 00:08:51,200 probably saw 40 or 50 of them it was 240 00:08:54,230 --> 00:08:52,560 shocking 241 00:08:56,389 --> 00:08:54,240 but i didn't go back for a few years so 242 00:08:58,070 --> 00:08:56,399 i was moving around a bit and stuff and 243 00:09:00,230 --> 00:08:58,080 then finally 244 00:09:02,150 --> 00:09:00,240 i realized how important 245 00:09:03,750 --> 00:09:02,160 that experience was to me to go out 246 00:09:05,030 --> 00:09:03,760 there and see them and i told myself man 247 00:09:07,030 --> 00:09:05,040 i need to go back there i need to start 248 00:09:08,790 --> 00:09:07,040 doing that every year because i would do 249 00:09:10,070 --> 00:09:08,800 other things all year long but nothing 250 00:09:12,710 --> 00:09:10,080 hit me the way 251 00:09:14,310 --> 00:09:12,720 seeing ufos fly over your head hits you 252 00:09:16,550 --> 00:09:14,320 so i mean you guys know you've already 253 00:09:17,829 --> 00:09:16,560 been out there yeah yeah so it turned 254 00:09:19,350 --> 00:09:17,839 into like all right i'm going to make a 255 00:09:20,790 --> 00:09:19,360 trip in june i'm going to stay as long 256 00:09:22,949 --> 00:09:20,800 as i can 257 00:09:25,030 --> 00:09:22,959 so now i go for 10 days at a time and 258 00:09:27,509 --> 00:09:25,040 now i make two trips a year but 259 00:09:30,070 --> 00:09:27,519 from the first time i went um we would 260 00:09:31,750 --> 00:09:30,080 see ufos all the time and i mean 261 00:09:33,509 --> 00:09:31,760 there was one time i was with my friend 262 00:09:35,350 --> 00:09:33,519 in the field and he hadn't seen ufos 263 00:09:36,389 --> 00:09:35,360 before so i told him like 264 00:09:38,230 --> 00:09:36,399 i'm gonna go out of his field we're 265 00:09:39,829 --> 00:09:38,240 gonna look around and probably see when 266 00:09:41,590 --> 00:09:39,839 i told him it'd be really cool if one 267 00:09:43,750 --> 00:09:41,600 landed and he was like yeah no i don't 268 00:09:45,910 --> 00:09:43,760 want that 269 00:09:47,430 --> 00:09:45,920 so we started walking back to camp and i 270 00:09:50,310 --> 00:09:47,440 told him i would actually be better as 271 00:09:52,710 --> 00:09:50,320 if two flew by over our head in tandem 272 00:09:54,790 --> 00:09:52,720 because i can promise you there's 273 00:09:56,470 --> 00:09:54,800 nothing up there flying in tandem you 274 00:09:58,550 --> 00:09:56,480 know you can't even argue with 275 00:10:00,070 --> 00:09:58,560 satellites doing that and so he's like 276 00:10:01,829 --> 00:10:00,080 yeah that'd be wild and as we were 277 00:10:02,949 --> 00:10:01,839 walking he saw this little sign on the 278 00:10:04,470 --> 00:10:02,959 side of the road he said hey look at 279 00:10:06,389 --> 00:10:04,480 that sign and as we stop to look at the 280 00:10:08,710 --> 00:10:06,399 sign he's like oh my god look 281 00:10:10,710 --> 00:10:08,720 and from the field we just left two big 282 00:10:12,470 --> 00:10:10,720 balls of light came out of the sky and 283 00:10:14,230 --> 00:10:12,480 flew along the top of the mountain ridge 284 00:10:16,230 --> 00:10:14,240 for i mean like two minutes we watched 285 00:10:18,630 --> 00:10:16,240 these two balls of light just kind of 286 00:10:20,230 --> 00:10:18,640 dancing around and 287 00:10:22,870 --> 00:10:20,240 to this day he's seen a lot of other 288 00:10:24,470 --> 00:10:22,880 stuff but that's still his craziest 289 00:10:26,389 --> 00:10:24,480 moment was 290 00:10:28,389 --> 00:10:26,399 they it seemed like they reacted to 291 00:10:30,389 --> 00:10:28,399 something we said you know we said it 292 00:10:31,910 --> 00:10:30,399 would be so cool if two would fly over 293 00:10:34,150 --> 00:10:31,920 our head and then sure enough two of 294 00:10:36,870 --> 00:10:34,160 them went overhead 295 00:10:38,949 --> 00:10:36,880 and then i started going alone because 296 00:10:40,710 --> 00:10:38,959 friends couldn't make it the experience 297 00:10:43,110 --> 00:10:40,720 was too valuable to me and then that's 298 00:10:44,870 --> 00:10:43,120 when it got real weird 299 00:10:47,190 --> 00:10:44,880 that's when the cryptos started showing 300 00:10:49,509 --> 00:10:47,200 up um that's when bigfoot started 301 00:10:51,110 --> 00:10:49,519 following me on my heights 302 00:10:53,190 --> 00:10:51,120 then start coming through my camp and 303 00:10:55,350 --> 00:10:53,200 then i started researching that and 304 00:10:56,389 --> 00:10:55,360 found tom dongo and the bradshaw ranch 305 00:10:57,910 --> 00:10:56,399 and 306 00:10:59,750 --> 00:10:57,920 it took me a couple years but then i got 307 00:11:01,350 --> 00:10:59,760 tom's attention became friends with tom 308 00:11:03,430 --> 00:11:01,360 and told me how to get out there and so 309 00:11:05,269 --> 00:11:03,440 the last i think like four years now i 310 00:11:07,590 --> 00:11:05,279 go out to that ranch on my 311 00:11:08,790 --> 00:11:07,600 on my trips and every time i go to the 312 00:11:10,790 --> 00:11:08,800 ranch 313 00:11:12,870 --> 00:11:10,800 it's giving more 314 00:11:14,790 --> 00:11:12,880 it you know it started with me finding 315 00:11:18,949 --> 00:11:14,800 footprints 316 00:11:20,230 --> 00:11:18,959 time i go and they're not just bigfoot 317 00:11:21,590 --> 00:11:20,240 footprints 318 00:11:24,389 --> 00:11:21,600 it's 319 00:11:26,630 --> 00:11:24,399 i've seen five or six at least different 320 00:11:28,710 --> 00:11:26,640 kinds of footprints big round ones like 321 00:11:30,470 --> 00:11:28,720 the size of an elephant like they've 322 00:11:32,710 --> 00:11:30,480 seen dinosaurs out there and they i mean 323 00:11:35,670 --> 00:11:32,720 that's what those tracks look like which 324 00:11:36,630 --> 00:11:35,680 sounds just ridiculous to say out loud 325 00:11:40,310 --> 00:11:36,640 um 326 00:11:42,389 --> 00:11:40,320 at weird two-toed tracks that you know 327 00:11:44,790 --> 00:11:42,399 and these creatures are really 328 00:11:46,710 --> 00:11:44,800 heavy really big big massive heavy 329 00:11:48,470 --> 00:11:46,720 creatures and it i don't know what to 330 00:11:50,069 --> 00:11:48,480 say about it other than the stuff is 331 00:11:51,910 --> 00:11:50,079 there so 332 00:11:53,509 --> 00:11:51,920 i just try to put myself in the place 333 00:11:55,430 --> 00:11:53,519 where this phenomenon is happening so i 334 00:11:57,350 --> 00:11:55,440 can try to get a better understanding of 335 00:11:59,030 --> 00:11:57,360 it and 336 00:12:01,110 --> 00:11:59,040 by the end of this last trip one of the 337 00:12:02,550 --> 00:12:01,120 creatures showed up in a photograph i 338 00:12:04,470 --> 00:12:02,560 don't know if you want to skip to the 339 00:12:06,470 --> 00:12:04,480 last scene of the documentary but 340 00:12:08,629 --> 00:12:06,480 there's this creature 341 00:12:10,710 --> 00:12:08,639 showed up in photographs that i was 342 00:12:12,389 --> 00:12:10,720 taking at the ranch house 343 00:12:15,030 --> 00:12:12,399 it's a little bit past this just a 344 00:12:17,750 --> 00:12:15,040 couple minutes passing 345 00:12:19,670 --> 00:12:17,760 and this thing is here if you play that 346 00:12:21,829 --> 00:12:19,680 bit 347 00:12:23,430 --> 00:12:21,839 it's a nice answer this it'll come up in 348 00:12:25,509 --> 00:12:23,440 a second 349 00:12:27,110 --> 00:12:25,519 uh we can't tell if it's a bigfoot 350 00:12:30,069 --> 00:12:27,120 because 351 00:12:32,629 --> 00:12:30,079 it's body is a little too blurry i mean 352 00:12:34,470 --> 00:12:32,639 you can see the shape of its eye it's 353 00:12:36,629 --> 00:12:34,480 glowing eyes are the are the one thing 354 00:12:38,870 --> 00:12:36,639 you can't miss in every picture but 355 00:12:41,430 --> 00:12:38,880 there's two pictures where you can it's 356 00:12:43,269 --> 00:12:41,440 bodies throwing a shadow on the house 357 00:12:44,310 --> 00:12:43,279 so i mean there was a physical thing 358 00:12:45,990 --> 00:12:44,320 there 359 00:12:48,790 --> 00:12:46,000 however it's starting to come up right 360 00:12:50,470 --> 00:12:48,800 here right there yeah i couldn't see it 361 00:12:52,389 --> 00:12:50,480 with my own eyes there's even a better 362 00:12:54,150 --> 00:12:52,399 picture that comes up here 363 00:12:55,910 --> 00:12:54,160 like these but this shows it was in 364 00:12:58,389 --> 00:12:55,920 several shots it wasn't just one picture 365 00:12:59,829 --> 00:12:58,399 it took like i was shooting 366 00:13:03,030 --> 00:12:59,839 the house look at that look at the 367 00:13:05,030 --> 00:13:03,040 shadow it's casting on yeah dude whoa 368 00:13:06,310 --> 00:13:05,040 we have a zoomed in one i think if you 369 00:13:09,030 --> 00:13:06,320 play it a little longer and get zoomed 370 00:13:12,069 --> 00:13:09,040 in on that but i mean 371 00:13:13,910 --> 00:13:12,079 there was a massive creature bent over 372 00:13:16,230 --> 00:13:13,920 it's like hunched down look at that 373 00:13:18,310 --> 00:13:16,240 thing look at that 374 00:13:19,829 --> 00:13:18,320 wow this looks like a tarantula for a 375 00:13:21,350 --> 00:13:19,839 face or something dude i'm just like 376 00:13:23,430 --> 00:13:21,360 seeing that 377 00:13:25,269 --> 00:13:23,440 and y'all didn't see it or hear it or 378 00:13:27,910 --> 00:13:25,279 anything while y'all were just standing 379 00:13:31,190 --> 00:13:27,920 literally right in front of it 380 00:13:32,629 --> 00:13:31,200 didn't smell it didn't hear it um 381 00:13:35,430 --> 00:13:32,639 but even though when they follow me 382 00:13:38,389 --> 00:13:35,440 around um hiking or they come through my 383 00:13:40,790 --> 00:13:38,399 camp i don't ever hear them walking 384 00:13:42,310 --> 00:13:40,800 and i mean you can hear a skunk like a 385 00:13:43,990 --> 00:13:42,320 hundred feet away from me walking on 386 00:13:46,710 --> 00:13:44,000 those dry leaves and camps you can hear 387 00:13:48,629 --> 00:13:46,720 every crate of walking but 388 00:13:49,430 --> 00:13:48,639 our last trip this thing came by our 389 00:13:51,030 --> 00:13:49,440 tent 390 00:13:53,430 --> 00:13:51,040 last night 391 00:13:55,350 --> 00:13:53,440 was making grunts now this is the first 392 00:13:57,829 --> 00:13:55,360 time we've i've had an encounter 393 00:13:59,910 --> 00:13:57,839 reversing vocalized but 394 00:14:03,030 --> 00:13:59,920 you can tell it's a big creature from 395 00:14:05,030 --> 00:14:03,040 the sound of it like the bass and it's 396 00:14:06,710 --> 00:14:05,040 the sound it made had to be and the 397 00:14:08,870 --> 00:14:06,720 sound was coming from like eight feet 398 00:14:10,470 --> 00:14:08,880 off the ground yeah but 399 00:14:13,590 --> 00:14:10,480 speaking of sound we're getting some 400 00:14:14,790 --> 00:14:13,600 like really fuzzy uh uh uh sounds from 401 00:14:17,189 --> 00:14:14,800 your microphone is there is there any 402 00:14:19,590 --> 00:14:17,199 way you could like maybe sit closer 403 00:14:21,430 --> 00:14:19,600 or maybe wiggle your uh 404 00:14:23,110 --> 00:14:21,440 microphone just maybe 405 00:14:24,629 --> 00:14:23,120 check something out 406 00:14:26,470 --> 00:14:24,639 i just want to make sure we get it all 407 00:14:28,310 --> 00:14:26,480 clear on it 408 00:14:30,389 --> 00:14:28,320 it's a new set so i don't know let me 409 00:14:31,189 --> 00:14:30,399 see does that help at all joe are you 410 00:14:33,350 --> 00:14:31,199 here 411 00:14:35,030 --> 00:14:33,360 a little bit maybe try unplugging it's 412 00:14:36,710 --> 00:14:35,040 in your phone jack try unplugging and 413 00:14:41,910 --> 00:14:36,720 replugging it back in maybe that'll 414 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:49,350 like it's bearing 415 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,389 yeah a little bit yeah 416 00:14:55,189 --> 00:14:53,670 all right let me see if i can turn my 417 00:14:57,269 --> 00:14:55,199 phone sideways because it was kind of 418 00:15:00,069 --> 00:14:57,279 leaning on the cord let me see if this 419 00:15:01,750 --> 00:15:00,079 helps yeah or this sounds any better 420 00:15:04,550 --> 00:15:01,760 because now it's not it's still doing it 421 00:15:06,790 --> 00:15:04,560 it's it's not uh it's not perfect but 422 00:15:10,629 --> 00:15:06,800 it's not unbearable for me 423 00:15:16,310 --> 00:15:14,310 right yeah yes dude 424 00:15:17,509 --> 00:15:16,320 or if i take an earphone out is that 425 00:15:18,710 --> 00:15:17,519 better 426 00:15:23,829 --> 00:15:18,720 no it made it worse actually 427 00:15:26,069 --> 00:15:23,839 [Laughter] 428 00:15:27,829 --> 00:15:26,079 yeah sorry fellas are you in one of 429 00:15:29,350 --> 00:15:27,839 those california homes that doesn't have 430 00:15:30,470 --> 00:15:29,360 ac in it 431 00:15:31,749 --> 00:15:30,480 i am 432 00:15:33,590 --> 00:15:31,759 you are 433 00:15:35,509 --> 00:15:33,600 yeah when i hear people say i gotta turn 434 00:15:36,870 --> 00:15:35,519 i gotta hit the fan i'm like 435 00:15:38,949 --> 00:15:36,880 you're one of those yeah and i close the 436 00:15:40,790 --> 00:15:38,959 window to keep this keep the sound down 437 00:15:43,910 --> 00:15:40,800 so i'm going to be in the sweat box here 438 00:15:46,790 --> 00:15:43,920 the sacrifices we make 439 00:15:48,310 --> 00:15:46,800 oh man yeah i mean it's really it's not 440 00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:48,320 too much of a difference if you gotta 441 00:15:52,629 --> 00:15:50,000 pop that fan on man go ahead and pop 442 00:15:54,550 --> 00:15:52,639 that fan back on it's it if it's if it 443 00:15:57,030 --> 00:15:54,560 gets bad i will yeah 444 00:16:00,150 --> 00:15:57,040 um but yeah so we heard this thing um 445 00:16:03,350 --> 00:16:00,160 you know making grunts like deep growls 446 00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:03,360 and it did it four times and each time 447 00:16:07,509 --> 00:16:05,680 was in a different location to where the 448 00:16:08,710 --> 00:16:07,519 fourth one it was on the other side of 449 00:16:10,870 --> 00:16:08,720 the creek 450 00:16:13,030 --> 00:16:10,880 and we didn't hear anything else in 451 00:16:15,910 --> 00:16:13,040 between the fronts there's no walking or 452 00:16:18,790 --> 00:16:15,920 branches breaking so 453 00:16:19,749 --> 00:16:18,800 these creatures aren't 454 00:16:22,470 --> 00:16:19,759 some 455 00:16:23,670 --> 00:16:22,480 regular animal as far as the encounters 456 00:16:25,509 --> 00:16:23,680 i've had 457 00:16:28,310 --> 00:16:25,519 they've got to be something else they've 458 00:16:30,470 --> 00:16:28,320 got to be something more because 459 00:16:32,230 --> 00:16:30,480 it's i unless someone can explain to me 460 00:16:32,949 --> 00:16:32,240 how they can do that you know how can 461 00:16:35,189 --> 00:16:32,959 they 462 00:16:38,150 --> 00:16:35,199 just leave five footprints 463 00:16:40,150 --> 00:16:38,160 of a creature that weighed 1500 pounds 464 00:16:42,310 --> 00:16:40,160 and that's it just you know they they 465 00:16:45,670 --> 00:16:42,320 just start and stop and then it just 466 00:16:47,430 --> 00:16:45,680 disappear right right yeah yeah weird 467 00:16:49,990 --> 00:16:47,440 but you know elephants can't do that you 468 00:16:52,230 --> 00:16:50,000 know another animal can do that so and 469 00:16:54,629 --> 00:16:52,240 the fact that happens on a ranch that is 470 00:16:58,069 --> 00:16:54,639 known for documenting such strange 471 00:17:00,389 --> 00:16:58,079 paranormal activity so frequently just 472 00:17:02,790 --> 00:17:00,399 it all lends to me is some sort of 473 00:17:05,510 --> 00:17:02,800 phenomenon we can't 474 00:17:07,110 --> 00:17:05,520 we can't understand and i try not to 475 00:17:09,189 --> 00:17:07,120 make too many assumptions about them i'd 476 00:17:10,710 --> 00:17:09,199 rather just put my feet on the ground 477 00:17:12,710 --> 00:17:10,720 where they are until i can learn 478 00:17:14,470 --> 00:17:12,720 something from them instead of 479 00:17:16,829 --> 00:17:14,480 yeah the the assumption thing is 480 00:17:20,230 --> 00:17:16,839 difficult right because it's 481 00:17:22,549 --> 00:17:20,240 like you can assume all you want to 482 00:17:24,949 --> 00:17:22,559 but then you can also go and find like a 483 00:17:26,870 --> 00:17:24,959 real scientist and then bring him with 484 00:17:28,630 --> 00:17:26,880 you and then all he's gonna have to do 485 00:17:30,789 --> 00:17:28,640 is assume too because he's gonna be like 486 00:17:33,430 --> 00:17:30,799 what the [\h__\h] i don't know like you know 487 00:17:36,549 --> 00:17:33,440 like that's right yeah yeah and how did 488 00:17:38,789 --> 00:17:36,559 this million pound animal make five uh 489 00:17:40,789 --> 00:17:38,799 footprints and then and then disappear 490 00:17:42,789 --> 00:17:40,799 you know right and there's 491 00:17:44,630 --> 00:17:42,799 you know what and so because i question 492 00:17:46,470 --> 00:17:44,640 myself a lot on that like so what am i 493 00:17:47,909 --> 00:17:46,480 trying to do out here you know what what 494 00:17:49,430 --> 00:17:47,919 is the point of this what's the goal of 495 00:17:51,669 --> 00:17:49,440 this because you know i'm not trying to 496 00:17:54,230 --> 00:17:51,679 get myself hurt by big you know i don't 497 00:17:55,909 --> 00:17:54,240 think i will get hurt on that ranch but 498 00:17:57,990 --> 00:17:55,919 you know what is it that i'm even doing 499 00:17:59,590 --> 00:17:58,000 i ask myself that a lot 500 00:18:01,430 --> 00:17:59,600 yeah what's the point what's the point 501 00:18:02,630 --> 00:18:01,440 you know what what what can we possibly 502 00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:02,640 gain from that 503 00:18:06,150 --> 00:18:03,760 and 504 00:18:07,350 --> 00:18:06,160 for me it's 505 00:18:14,070 --> 00:18:07,360 that 506 00:18:15,830 --> 00:18:14,080 definitely much more going on than what 507 00:18:16,870 --> 00:18:15,840 we perceive around us 508 00:18:18,070 --> 00:18:16,880 to be 509 00:18:19,990 --> 00:18:18,080 you know it 510 00:18:21,990 --> 00:18:20,000 you know you look around at our all our 511 00:18:23,669 --> 00:18:22,000 daily lives on planet earth and we think 512 00:18:24,630 --> 00:18:23,679 that's it there's nothing anywhere else 513 00:18:26,710 --> 00:18:24,640 that could 514 00:18:28,310 --> 00:18:26,720 possibly exist 515 00:18:30,630 --> 00:18:28,320 i guys 516 00:18:32,550 --> 00:18:30,640 i'm so sorry but like i can't i can only 517 00:18:33,990 --> 00:18:32,560 focus on the scratches 518 00:18:35,830 --> 00:18:34,000 [Applause] 519 00:18:37,990 --> 00:18:35,840 can we try you uh backing out and then 520 00:18:40,310 --> 00:18:38,000 coming back in uh uh we've got that 521 00:18:41,750 --> 00:18:40,320 suggestion in in the chat and 522 00:18:43,350 --> 00:18:41,760 yeah you want me to leave the group and 523 00:18:44,710 --> 00:18:43,360 come back home yeah just you can exit 524 00:18:45,990 --> 00:18:44,720 out and then come back and come right 525 00:18:48,789 --> 00:18:46,000 back in 526 00:18:50,549 --> 00:18:48,799 thank you for the uh uh tip uh sunny 527 00:18:52,390 --> 00:18:50,559 paranormal drop shot yep 528 00:18:54,070 --> 00:18:52,400 nice 529 00:18:55,590 --> 00:18:54,080 sometimes you gotta unplug it and just 530 00:18:58,549 --> 00:18:55,600 plug it back in dude that's what 531 00:19:00,310 --> 00:18:58,559 sometimes you have to have it oh yeah 532 00:19:01,510 --> 00:19:00,320 all right let's try it 533 00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:01,520 there he is 534 00:19:20,710 --> 00:19:07,029 keep talking keep talking a little bit 535 00:19:27,029 --> 00:19:23,270 i don't really have another device i 536 00:19:28,390 --> 00:19:27,039 think i could log in from either 537 00:19:30,070 --> 00:19:28,400 yeah 538 00:19:31,830 --> 00:19:30,080 is it really that much 539 00:19:34,470 --> 00:19:31,840 do you have to use the headphones maybe 540 00:19:35,510 --> 00:19:34,480 is can you hear it okay without them 541 00:19:38,870 --> 00:19:35,520 oh yeah 542 00:19:40,070 --> 00:19:38,880 let's try that 543 00:19:43,270 --> 00:19:40,080 you hear 544 00:19:44,630 --> 00:19:43,280 yeah yeah dude 545 00:19:46,710 --> 00:19:44,640 all right well you hear this uh the 546 00:19:48,390 --> 00:19:46,720 old-fashioned way 547 00:19:50,070 --> 00:19:48,400 sounds perfect dude yeah that's really 548 00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:50,080 good can you hear us 549 00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:52,480 yeah it's fine 550 00:19:57,110 --> 00:19:54,720 awesome that sounds great you know we 551 00:19:59,350 --> 00:19:57,120 always try to over complicate things and 552 00:20:00,870 --> 00:19:59,360 i don't know all the extras in no i need 553 00:20:02,470 --> 00:20:00,880 okay wait let me turn my little fan back 554 00:20:11,430 --> 00:20:02,480 on hold on 555 00:20:14,870 --> 00:20:13,590 yeah i mean i so that you know there's 556 00:20:17,110 --> 00:20:14,880 every time i've been out there is more 557 00:20:18,630 --> 00:20:17,120 and more and i think it's gonna 558 00:20:20,390 --> 00:20:18,640 i think if i keep going and i keep 559 00:20:21,510 --> 00:20:20,400 having more experiences maybe i get like 560 00:20:24,470 --> 00:20:21,520 some 561 00:20:25,990 --> 00:20:24,480 instead of 562 00:20:27,430 --> 00:20:26,000 i think a lot of people go out there and 563 00:20:30,950 --> 00:20:27,440 try to 564 00:20:33,190 --> 00:20:30,960 force an experience to back up their own 565 00:20:35,990 --> 00:20:33,200 thought like somebody thinks well i 566 00:20:38,630 --> 00:20:36,000 think the bigfoot is evil and so they go 567 00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:38,640 out there and they specifically look for 568 00:20:42,470 --> 00:20:41,600 things to try to back that up and it's 569 00:20:44,149 --> 00:20:42,480 like that 570 00:20:46,630 --> 00:20:44,159 you know you're going to get nowhere so 571 00:20:48,950 --> 00:20:46,640 i'm trying to take a very unbiased 572 00:20:49,669 --> 00:20:48,960 go out and collect experiences and see 573 00:20:52,070 --> 00:20:49,679 what 574 00:20:53,110 --> 00:20:52,080 picture those experiences paint kind of 575 00:20:54,549 --> 00:20:53,120 approach 576 00:20:57,830 --> 00:20:54,559 yeah that's funny funny you bring that 577 00:21:00,470 --> 00:20:57,840 up because i i uh my the sightings that 578 00:21:03,110 --> 00:21:00,480 i i used to see all the time have like 579 00:21:04,870 --> 00:21:03,120 dude it's like barely anything man and i 580 00:21:06,310 --> 00:21:04,880 feel i feel like 581 00:21:08,710 --> 00:21:06,320 i've been thinking about this idea that 582 00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:08,720 the more you evolve 583 00:21:13,029 --> 00:21:11,039 an idea of what you think it is and like 584 00:21:14,230 --> 00:21:13,039 gets set in your your understanding even 585 00:21:15,590 --> 00:21:14,240 though i try to like look at everything 586 00:21:18,149 --> 00:21:15,600 very openly 587 00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:18,159 i think i still have this lens that i'm 588 00:21:21,669 --> 00:21:20,000 building layer on layer and the more 589 00:21:24,549 --> 00:21:21,679 that i do that i'm like seeing the 590 00:21:25,669 --> 00:21:24,559 phenomenon a lot less in real life so i 591 00:21:28,070 --> 00:21:25,679 wonder if 592 00:21:30,310 --> 00:21:28,080 there's got to be something to it but 593 00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:30,320 that's pretty interesting yeah or maybe 594 00:21:35,830 --> 00:21:34,390 i don't know if this makes any sense 595 00:21:38,390 --> 00:21:35,840 because there are people that just see 596 00:21:39,750 --> 00:21:38,400 them all the time but maybe like it and 597 00:21:46,310 --> 00:21:39,760 like 598 00:21:48,310 --> 00:21:46,320 profound 599 00:21:50,149 --> 00:21:48,320 like experiences like i don't remember 600 00:21:51,430 --> 00:21:50,159 being taken up on a ship or anything you 601 00:21:53,830 --> 00:21:51,440 know but like 602 00:21:55,510 --> 00:21:53,840 maybe it's kind of like a a playful 603 00:21:57,270 --> 00:21:55,520 thing to where it's like you know sure 604 00:21:59,270 --> 00:21:57,280 would be cool like i already believe i 605 00:22:01,350 --> 00:21:59,280 don't need any proof technically but i 606 00:22:02,789 --> 00:22:01,360 sure would like to see one you know you 607 00:22:05,350 --> 00:22:02,799 gotta come in with that mentality and 608 00:22:07,510 --> 00:22:05,360 they're like oh here you go [\h__\h] like 609 00:22:09,190 --> 00:22:07,520 you know and it shows you a few times 610 00:22:12,149 --> 00:22:09,200 enough to like really hook it in and 611 00:22:14,950 --> 00:22:12,159 then you're like okay this is this is 612 00:22:17,110 --> 00:22:14,960 right on the money i'm definitely seeing 613 00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:17,120 stuff i know that like this isn't just 614 00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:19,840 like uh in my mind or seeing a satellite 615 00:22:23,750 --> 00:22:21,840 or something i know that i i've 616 00:22:25,990 --> 00:22:23,760 officially seen something and then it's 617 00:22:27,510 --> 00:22:26,000 like oh well good now you know i'm not 618 00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:27,520 gonna show up anymore now what are you 619 00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:29,600 gonna do about it yeah yeah exactly well 620 00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:32,720 yeah i'm trying to tell my friends 621 00:22:39,110 --> 00:22:35,440 you know i think that happens uh a bit 622 00:22:41,750 --> 00:22:39,120 with me when i used to count how many 623 00:22:43,990 --> 00:22:41,760 ufos i'd seen and i stopped at a 624 00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:44,000 thousand which was a couple years ago 625 00:22:48,310 --> 00:22:46,559 because when i started going for 10 day 626 00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:48,320 trips i mean you know you could catch 627 00:22:51,430 --> 00:22:50,400 anywhere from 10 to 100 a night out 628 00:22:53,029 --> 00:22:51,440 there so 629 00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:53,039 i got to a thousand i was like okay this 630 00:22:59,590 --> 00:22:56,080 is pointless and i did start to have 631 00:23:01,669 --> 00:22:59,600 those moments though where 632 00:23:03,990 --> 00:23:01,679 the novelty factor 633 00:23:06,070 --> 00:23:04,000 wore off a little bit 634 00:23:07,990 --> 00:23:06,080 not completely because i think it's 635 00:23:11,430 --> 00:23:08,000 always magical when you see them but 636 00:23:13,590 --> 00:23:11,440 however i wasn't quite as amazed by 637 00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:13,600 the the ones we see the most frequently 638 00:23:18,710 --> 00:23:16,320 in and then you start to think okay well 639 00:23:21,350 --> 00:23:18,720 what is the purpose behind 640 00:23:23,270 --> 00:23:21,360 all of these things here you know 641 00:23:25,029 --> 00:23:23,280 taxi cabs in new york city would be 642 00:23:26,630 --> 00:23:25,039 really interesting to me if i had never 643 00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:26,640 been into a city but after a couple 644 00:23:29,350 --> 00:23:28,080 hours i'm like okay there's a bunch of 645 00:23:31,270 --> 00:23:29,360 taxicab where are all the people in 646 00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:31,280 those cabs going like what's the biggest 647 00:23:36,310 --> 00:23:33,360 you know happenings here yeah and so i 648 00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:36,320 think that larger story with the ufos is 649 00:23:43,669 --> 00:23:37,840 tough 650 00:23:44,789 --> 00:23:43,679 i don't even like to put opinions out on 651 00:23:46,950 --> 00:23:44,799 it because 652 00:23:49,590 --> 00:23:46,960 it's touchy you know people have i think 653 00:23:53,190 --> 00:23:49,600 form their own ideas on what the aliens 654 00:23:55,990 --> 00:23:53,200 and the ufos are and so it's kind of um 655 00:23:58,310 --> 00:23:56,000 it's tough to bring new information out 656 00:24:00,070 --> 00:23:58,320 especially if it goes against what 657 00:24:02,149 --> 00:24:00,080 people have traditionally thought about 658 00:24:04,070 --> 00:24:02,159 them you know 659 00:24:05,269 --> 00:24:04,080 yeah what do you guys think about i mean 660 00:24:13,510 --> 00:24:05,279 you 661 00:24:15,029 --> 00:24:13,520 yeah yeah uh we've had a couple strange 662 00:24:17,029 --> 00:24:15,039 things happen to us i mean like 663 00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:17,039 literally like right over our houses you 664 00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:19,440 know ben was younger he had some stuff 665 00:24:23,590 --> 00:24:21,520 right out near his house 666 00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:23,600 uh i've seen a couple strange things 667 00:24:26,870 --> 00:24:25,840 like camping out in like the trilingua 668 00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:26,880 area 669 00:24:32,630 --> 00:24:28,000 you know 670 00:24:34,710 --> 00:24:32,640 we were out in sedona together uh for 671 00:24:36,789 --> 00:24:34,720 like our first trip into phoenix we had 672 00:24:39,029 --> 00:24:36,799 went to the uh the conference that was 673 00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:39,039 in phoenix and we stopped at sedona 674 00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:41,760 before we went to the you know to the 675 00:24:47,029 --> 00:24:43,840 conference and right you saw some cool 676 00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:47,039 stuff out there too uh yeah i mean yeah 677 00:24:53,510 --> 00:24:50,000 we've definitely seen a few things 678 00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:53,520 so i think that you guys got a 679 00:24:57,669 --> 00:24:55,840 short end of the stick experience at the 680 00:24:59,990 --> 00:24:57,679 bradshaw ranch with me that night 681 00:25:01,029 --> 00:25:00,000 because 682 00:25:03,510 --> 00:25:01,039 just 683 00:25:04,390 --> 00:25:03,520 it was one we had too many people there 684 00:25:06,870 --> 00:25:04,400 um 685 00:25:08,630 --> 00:25:06,880 yeah oddly enough the phenomenon doesn't 686 00:25:10,390 --> 00:25:08,640 seem to 687 00:25:13,110 --> 00:25:10,400 react very well when you have more than 688 00:25:15,269 --> 00:25:13,120 three or four people there but 689 00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:15,279 one person in particular was just being 690 00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:17,840 a bit loud and kind of 691 00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:20,000 treating it like a paranormal disneyland 692 00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:22,240 and i i think that 693 00:25:26,549 --> 00:25:25,200 these higher level beings which 694 00:25:28,950 --> 00:25:26,559 i'm making the assumption these 695 00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:28,960 creatures are higher level beings but 696 00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:30,960 if these higher level beings see that 697 00:25:35,430 --> 00:25:32,240 kind of 698 00:25:37,430 --> 00:25:35,440 action out there i think they're really 699 00:25:38,789 --> 00:25:37,440 unimpressed and don't turn up you know i 700 00:25:40,470 --> 00:25:38,799 think it's when you go out there with 701 00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:40,480 that 702 00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:45,360 appear to you approach seems to be a 703 00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:47,200 little bit better so i hope that we get 704 00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:48,720 i get another chance maybe to take you 705 00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:50,559 guys out there sometime because 706 00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:52,480 it's a pretty wild place you know i've 707 00:25:56,789 --> 00:25:55,600 always had this idea you know uh 708 00:25:58,630 --> 00:25:56,799 you know some people would say that you 709 00:26:01,909 --> 00:25:58,640 know like uh 710 00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:01,919 spirits or ghosts or like even et's 711 00:26:06,870 --> 00:26:04,880 the the manifestation of whatever it is 712 00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:06,880 that shows up in front of you you know 713 00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:08,880 they're they're harnessing 714 00:26:13,350 --> 00:26:10,880 an energy they're using an energy to be 715 00:26:15,909 --> 00:26:13,360 able to manifest themselves in some type 716 00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:15,919 of form for you and i always had this 717 00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:17,039 thought like 718 00:26:20,710 --> 00:26:18,960 i wonder if you have one of those people 719 00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:20,720 that we would consider to be energy 720 00:26:25,190 --> 00:26:23,200 vampires like they just suck it out of 721 00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:25,200 everybody you know when you have those 722 00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:26,559 types of people around they're like 723 00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:29,279 actually sucking up energy that could be 724 00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:32,400 used for these these other entities to 725 00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:34,640 manifest around well you just you just 726 00:26:38,789 --> 00:26:36,480 gave me thinking on that though i mean 727 00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:38,799 maybe that's why the phenomenon is 728 00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:40,960 stronger at the ranch because sedona has 729 00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:42,880 a lot of those energy vortexes coming 730 00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:44,480 out of the earth maybe on the property 731 00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:46,080 the ranch is built on the energy's 732 00:26:49,350 --> 00:26:47,760 stronger there and these things can feed 733 00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:49,360 off that energy to manifest there 734 00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:51,760 because they certainly are there i mean 735 00:26:57,510 --> 00:26:54,960 it takes a physical object to leave 736 00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:57,520 left right transitions of feet you know 737 00:27:00,710 --> 00:26:59,520 i mean that's not 738 00:27:02,390 --> 00:27:00,720 some 739 00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:02,400 anomalous uh 740 00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:04,799 mark left by a rock or i mean those are 741 00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:06,400 those are you know something walking 742 00:27:10,470 --> 00:27:08,480 there and it's big it's creepy when you 743 00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:10,480 see them during the day 744 00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:11,679 real quick 745 00:27:16,149 --> 00:27:13,760 i wanted to tell this quick story so 746 00:27:17,990 --> 00:27:16,159 when we all got to bradshaw ranch do you 747 00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:18,000 joe do you remember right when we pulled 748 00:27:20,710 --> 00:27:19,600 up we got out of the car i saw that big 749 00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:20,720 orange 750 00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:22,799 light zip up straight up into the sky 751 00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:24,559 and it was like hovering right over 752 00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:26,159 where that house was 753 00:27:29,350 --> 00:27:27,600 and like no like 754 00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:29,360 as soon as i said something i was like 755 00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:30,960 oh my god i just saw something like 756 00:27:37,510 --> 00:27:33,600 shoot up it was so bright so big 757 00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:37,520 and no one else saw it and uh 758 00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:38,880 it was like really quick like you 759 00:27:42,549 --> 00:27:40,240 literally like turned your head and you 760 00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:42,559 were like what and it was um 761 00:27:46,389 --> 00:27:44,799 yeah that's that's part of the trick 762 00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:46,399 it's it's tough to capture the 763 00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:49,200 phenomenon sometimes um 764 00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:50,880 so that's one so 765 00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:51,840 this 766 00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:55,120 because 767 00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:57,520 it probably goes against every tradition 768 00:28:02,630 --> 00:27:58,559 of 769 00:28:04,070 --> 00:28:02,640 filming something like this because 770 00:28:07,029 --> 00:28:04,080 we didn't 771 00:28:10,630 --> 00:28:07,039 you know my original idea was to invite 772 00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:10,640 damien out to with his cameras and 773 00:28:16,149 --> 00:28:13,440 to do that for a few years and that over 774 00:28:17,909 --> 00:28:16,159 the years we would be able to gather 775 00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:17,919 enough footage of 776 00:28:21,909 --> 00:28:20,000 high strangeness to string something 777 00:28:24,310 --> 00:28:21,919 together to watch 778 00:28:26,630 --> 00:28:24,320 and after three and a half days of them 779 00:28:29,669 --> 00:28:26,640 out there we're like hey we're done we 780 00:28:31,669 --> 00:28:29,679 we have way too much to even edit into a 781 00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:31,679 movie now but 782 00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:33,520 um so 783 00:28:38,149 --> 00:28:36,080 it wasn't like he was he was smart 784 00:28:39,909 --> 00:28:38,159 enough to sit down like the second day 785 00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:39,919 and like make a quick shot list of 786 00:28:44,230 --> 00:28:41,679 things he wanted to include in it which 787 00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:44,240 was extremely helpful and he knows how 788 00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:45,600 to film 789 00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:47,600 b-roll as we're just walking around you 790 00:28:50,389 --> 00:28:48,880 know he knows how to do it kind of 791 00:28:52,630 --> 00:28:50,399 organically but 792 00:28:54,549 --> 00:28:52,640 we don't set up trap cameras we didn't 793 00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:54,559 set up cameras outside the tent at night 794 00:28:59,750 --> 00:28:57,440 we aren't hunting these things you can't 795 00:29:01,430 --> 00:28:59,760 i don't believe you can get the jump on 796 00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:01,440 these creatures 797 00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:04,080 i understand that we have to be 798 00:29:09,029 --> 00:29:06,240 something they want to reveal themselves 799 00:29:10,789 --> 00:29:09,039 to and that takes a very 800 00:29:12,470 --> 00:29:10,799 uh 801 00:29:14,070 --> 00:29:12,480 i don't know the word it just takes a 802 00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:14,080 very like uh 803 00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:15,600 maybe humble approach i don't know if 804 00:29:19,029 --> 00:29:17,600 that's the word but 805 00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:19,039 you can't go in there feeling like 806 00:29:23,029 --> 00:29:21,039 you're a big shot and that oh i'm gonna 807 00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:23,039 go find these things no you're not 808 00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:24,240 they're gonna prove to you that you 809 00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:25,840 won't but if you thought they may be 810 00:29:29,430 --> 00:29:27,360 hoping for an encounter i think you're a 811 00:29:32,389 --> 00:29:29,440 little more likely to get something i i 812 00:29:33,269 --> 00:29:32,399 think it's all on what your expectation 813 00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:33,279 and 814 00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:36,720 uh yeah the expectations with not only 815 00:29:40,149 --> 00:29:38,480 yourself but the others around you like 816 00:29:42,070 --> 00:29:40,159 if you got if you're going there with a 817 00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:42,080 group of people and the expectation is 818 00:29:45,669 --> 00:29:43,120 like 819 00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:45,679 hey yeah we will see something or man i 820 00:29:48,630 --> 00:29:47,360 was here last week i guarantee you're 821 00:29:50,710 --> 00:29:48,640 going to see something like 822 00:29:53,029 --> 00:29:50,720 i think that it has to be an 823 00:29:55,029 --> 00:29:53,039 understanding that like it's almost like 824 00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:55,039 you want the the opposite of that like 825 00:29:58,950 --> 00:29:56,640 hey we're probably not going to see 826 00:30:00,870 --> 00:29:58,960 anything we're right 827 00:30:03,430 --> 00:30:00,880 it's a privilege to have an encounter it 828 00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:03,440 feels like not something we can expect 829 00:30:07,350 --> 00:30:06,320 to you know to happen but i've met i've 830 00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:07,360 actually 831 00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:09,360 what you said um 832 00:30:12,710 --> 00:30:11,360 going out there with a certain mindset i 833 00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:12,720 actually 834 00:30:17,269 --> 00:30:14,960 missed the opportunity to 835 00:30:19,029 --> 00:30:17,279 walk over and encounter a creature on 836 00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:19,039 the ranch because i had two people with 837 00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:19,840 me 838 00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:24,720 at night but 839 00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:26,640 it wasn't until afterwards i realized 840 00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:28,480 they pretty much went out there to get 841 00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:30,480 scared you know like when kids go to 842 00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:32,640 like a haunted house like you go there 843 00:30:36,070 --> 00:30:34,240 looking to get scared and when you hear 844 00:30:37,430 --> 00:30:36,080 or see something you spook right and you 845 00:30:39,029 --> 00:30:37,440 run away like the kids looking at 846 00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:39,039 haunted places and that's what happened 847 00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:41,520 like as soon as this creature came out 848 00:30:45,350 --> 00:30:43,919 and it's i i talk about it in 849 00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:45,360 in the documentary but i mean it was a 850 00:30:49,110 --> 00:30:47,520 good 15 or 20 feet tall because i saw 851 00:30:50,470 --> 00:30:49,120 its eyes looking at us after it made all 852 00:30:52,710 --> 00:30:50,480 the noise but 853 00:30:54,710 --> 00:30:52,720 it was beating on a structure within a 854 00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:54,720 whole tree log i mean this thing had to 855 00:30:57,590 --> 00:30:55,440 be 856 00:31:00,310 --> 00:30:57,600 so big like it sounded like the house 857 00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:00,320 was being torn down i've never heard 858 00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:04,000 anything so loud out in the wilderness 859 00:31:06,470 --> 00:31:05,679 and my two friends 860 00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:06,480 had 861 00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:08,799 the look of death in their face and they 862 00:31:13,190 --> 00:31:11,440 wanted to get out now and i calmed them 863 00:31:14,950 --> 00:31:13,200 like i was trying to calm down to wait 864 00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:14,960 and hear if it made noises again and we 865 00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:17,360 did and it made the noises four times so 866 00:31:20,950 --> 00:31:19,840 it wasn't a weird fluke but that fourth 867 00:31:23,029 --> 00:31:20,960 time they're like 868 00:31:25,509 --> 00:31:23,039 bro we are out of here and we're not 869 00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:25,519 even letting you go over there 870 00:31:30,789 --> 00:31:26,720 so 871 00:31:33,190 --> 00:31:30,799 it is it is trippy because 872 00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:33,200 you do need to be wary of who you bring 873 00:31:36,310 --> 00:31:34,720 with you if you're looking to do 874 00:31:39,029 --> 00:31:36,320 something specific like if i'm 875 00:31:41,830 --> 00:31:39,039 specifically looking to have an actual 876 00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:41,840 like handshake encounter which a 877 00:31:46,149 --> 00:31:43,440 creature that i think looks like 878 00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:46,159 chewbacca because that's just you know 879 00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:47,919 to me i want a friendly thought what 880 00:31:52,149 --> 00:31:50,720 about this i think of it as like chewy 881 00:31:54,549 --> 00:31:52,159 i can't bring somebody that's going out 882 00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:54,559 there to get scared 883 00:31:57,350 --> 00:31:55,919 yeah because they'll get scared as soon 884 00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:57,360 as that thing even makes a sound you 885 00:31:59,669 --> 00:31:58,080 know 886 00:32:01,669 --> 00:31:59,679 right 887 00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:01,679 yeah you had uh you made a you made an 888 00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:04,480 interesting uh comment earlier uh about 889 00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:07,440 how you know you well you would hope at 890 00:32:12,789 --> 00:32:09,360 least but you get the feeling that you 891 00:32:15,269 --> 00:32:12,799 know nothing out there would you know 892 00:32:17,830 --> 00:32:15,279 is is there to kind of hurt you you know 893 00:32:20,470 --> 00:32:17,840 right right and it it kind of seems like 894 00:32:22,710 --> 00:32:20,480 that sometimes i mean there's a scene uh 895 00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:22,720 in the documentary where there's there's 896 00:32:26,789 --> 00:32:25,360 regular terrestrial [\h__\h] like you know 897 00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:26,799 that will hurt you you know what i'm 898 00:32:30,230 --> 00:32:28,399 saying like the rattlesnake 899 00:32:32,630 --> 00:32:30,240 you know like so i mean 900 00:32:33,430 --> 00:32:32,640 you're 100 right and that's why even 901 00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:33,440 though 902 00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:34,480 um 903 00:32:39,509 --> 00:32:37,360 i had my own personal really nerdy 904 00:32:41,830 --> 00:32:39,519 reasons for wanting a suit of armor i 905 00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:41,840 mean it justified me sitting and making 906 00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:43,840 myself a protective layer for those 907 00:32:47,350 --> 00:32:45,360 terrestrial creatures i think those are 908 00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:47,360 the only things i actually need to be 909 00:32:50,310 --> 00:32:49,440 wary of when i'm out there 910 00:32:52,389 --> 00:32:50,320 um 911 00:32:54,950 --> 00:32:52,399 and yeah i was in quarantine 912 00:32:57,269 --> 00:32:54,960 did i always always i've never had a 913 00:32:59,830 --> 00:32:57,279 reason never had a reason to own one 914 00:33:02,470 --> 00:32:59,840 it's like a it's like a like a 915 00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:02,480 the suit looks like a steampunk samurai 916 00:33:05,590 --> 00:33:03,440 kind of thing 917 00:33:06,870 --> 00:33:05,600 i felt like tony stark in the cave when 918 00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:06,880 i was making that thing because i 919 00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:08,720 punched every hole with like an awl and 920 00:33:12,549 --> 00:33:10,720 a hammer and i just every hole and then 921 00:33:14,389 --> 00:33:12,559 stitch it all together it was fun it was 922 00:33:16,549 --> 00:33:14,399 it was a challenge but it was fun yeah 923 00:33:18,389 --> 00:33:16,559 that's awesome dude that is i feel safe 924 00:33:21,350 --> 00:33:18,399 on a minute that's for sure like it 925 00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:21,360 covers all the way up to my jaw yeah 926 00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:23,760 yeah you know you uh did something else 927 00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:26,320 really really cool i absolutely love 928 00:33:31,269 --> 00:33:28,799 this uh and i kind of want to get one is 929 00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:31,279 your uh your little emblem the the 930 00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:34,159 chrome baby raven your baby raven yes 931 00:33:39,430 --> 00:33:36,960 dude i love that emblem and i love the 932 00:33:41,830 --> 00:33:39,440 idea behind it you know anybody that you 933 00:33:44,310 --> 00:33:41,840 see with this baby raven you know that's 934 00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:44,320 kind of a symbol of like hey 935 00:33:47,669 --> 00:33:46,000 we can talk right because we're like a 936 00:33:50,470 --> 00:33:47,679 little secret fraternity or something 937 00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:50,480 like that you know i love that dude 938 00:33:53,350 --> 00:33:51,440 i did 939 00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:53,360 it was kind of me just 940 00:33:56,149 --> 00:33:54,720 uh 941 00:33:58,389 --> 00:33:56,159 thinking of 942 00:33:59,909 --> 00:33:58,399 something that at least 943 00:34:02,389 --> 00:33:59,919 made sense 944 00:34:04,470 --> 00:34:02,399 to describe kind of the 945 00:34:07,350 --> 00:34:04,480 mentality i had you know of not trying 946 00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:07,360 to get stuck into one of those little 947 00:34:11,829 --> 00:34:09,520 uh niches like 948 00:34:13,909 --> 00:34:11,839 only bigfoots only ufos only ghosts only 949 00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:13,919 witchcraft or something 950 00:34:16,470 --> 00:34:15,280 i think if you look at that bigger 951 00:34:18,869 --> 00:34:16,480 picture 952 00:34:20,869 --> 00:34:18,879 we'll find it's really all connected and 953 00:34:21,829 --> 00:34:20,879 ways we didn't understand before you 954 00:34:25,510 --> 00:34:21,839 know 955 00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:25,520 carry like uh 956 00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:27,520 i had pins made so i usually carry pins 957 00:34:31,829 --> 00:34:29,280 when i meet people i give them some pins 958 00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:31,839 and stuff like that with a raven logo so 959 00:34:35,349 --> 00:34:33,280 i'm gonna i mean i want to encourage 960 00:34:37,669 --> 00:34:35,359 people to kind of just make their own 961 00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:37,679 because i like i understand that feeling 962 00:34:40,950 --> 00:34:39,440 you have when you made something and you 963 00:34:42,790 --> 00:34:40,960 wear it and you feel a little bit better 964 00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:42,800 about it but i'm still gonna make some 965 00:34:46,389 --> 00:34:44,879 like inexpensive gear to put online and 966 00:34:47,589 --> 00:34:46,399 people just want to buy a pen or a 967 00:34:49,829 --> 00:34:47,599 sticker or something like that and make 968 00:34:52,149 --> 00:34:49,839 it available yeah i i think that's such 969 00:34:54,069 --> 00:34:52,159 a cool idea like you know yeah you use 970 00:34:56,149 --> 00:34:54,079 the raven and add something to it that 971 00:34:57,109 --> 00:34:56,159 kind of makes it your own you know yeah 972 00:34:59,829 --> 00:34:57,119 yeah 973 00:35:01,990 --> 00:34:59,839 connect with that is so fun dude i love 974 00:35:03,349 --> 00:35:02,000 that dude we should make a baby raven 975 00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:03,359 cruising into the sea 976 00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:07,430 raven yeah dude with a beard that would 977 00:35:13,510 --> 00:35:10,960 be sick oh yeah yeah bearded raven 978 00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:13,520 that would be dope that would be dope so 979 00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:16,079 like i made them i made street art for a 980 00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:18,640 long time and so i kind of have just 981 00:35:22,390 --> 00:35:20,560 changed that into 982 00:35:24,630 --> 00:35:22,400 making 983 00:35:26,150 --> 00:35:24,640 like small runs of apparel as kind of 984 00:35:27,349 --> 00:35:26,160 like some wearable art so that's what 985 00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:27,359 i've been doing with the raven thing 986 00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:29,280 like i'll make up like three or four 987 00:35:33,190 --> 00:35:31,200 hoodies that have 988 00:35:35,270 --> 00:35:33,200 you know particular patches or 989 00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:35,280 embroidery that i designed and then 990 00:35:39,190 --> 00:35:37,520 i'll design a new little emblem with a 991 00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:39,200 raven like i just did one that looks 992 00:35:43,910 --> 00:35:41,760 like a a giant rune stone monolith but 993 00:35:46,630 --> 00:35:43,920 has the raven on it so i'm gonna get 994 00:35:48,630 --> 00:35:46,640 some like pvc rubber patches made of 995 00:35:50,470 --> 00:35:48,640 that one that are pretty big that velcro 996 00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:50,480 back so i can put those on the sleeve of 997 00:35:52,630 --> 00:35:51,760 hoodies and stuff 998 00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:52,640 so 999 00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:55,040 i hope to just kind of 1000 00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:56,000 make it 1001 00:36:00,150 --> 00:35:58,640 keep it fun for me to at least you know 1002 00:36:02,470 --> 00:36:00,160 design and make stuff and not make it a 1003 00:36:03,829 --> 00:36:02,480 hassle that kind of stuff but 1004 00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:03,839 yeah i think it'll be easy if i make 1005 00:36:07,510 --> 00:36:05,520 like oh maybe i can make like a few 1006 00:36:09,030 --> 00:36:07,520 hundred pins and like throw them on 1007 00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:09,040 amazon or something that way i don't you 1008 00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:10,880 know they're available but 1009 00:36:15,349 --> 00:36:13,440 i don't have to worry about shipping and 1010 00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:15,359 all that stuff that's so hard to do i 1011 00:36:18,069 --> 00:36:16,960 worked in like automotive shops and when 1012 00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:18,079 people order something they want it 1013 00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:19,440 right away and if you don't have time to 1014 00:36:22,790 --> 00:36:20,880 send it right away 1015 00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:22,800 it's tough so 1016 00:36:26,310 --> 00:36:24,480 if i can outsource it to someone who can 1017 00:36:29,109 --> 00:36:26,320 do it then i'll make some stuff more 1018 00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:29,119 stuff available yeah heck yeah man i uh 1019 00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:31,200 [\h__\h] i'd buy a pin 1020 00:36:35,349 --> 00:36:33,200 i think it's just cool a cool little 1021 00:36:37,270 --> 00:36:35,359 logo man i love that dude i love the 1022 00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:37,280 idea behind it too you know i'll send 1023 00:36:41,349 --> 00:36:39,520 you guys something i'll message message 1024 00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:41,359 me your guys uh address and i'll send 1025 00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:42,960 you guys some yeah that'd be cool man 1026 00:36:47,430 --> 00:36:45,040 heck yeah yeah yeah i'll rock it for 1027 00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:47,440 sure yeah that's that's awesome i love 1028 00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:48,240 that 1029 00:36:51,109 --> 00:36:49,119 um 1030 00:36:52,630 --> 00:36:51,119 i gotta compete with your your ufo 1031 00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:52,640 garage logo so i had to come up with 1032 00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:54,880 something cool you know 1033 00:36:58,630 --> 00:36:56,160 yeah man 1034 00:37:01,750 --> 00:36:58,640 yeah um 1035 00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:01,760 that's that's ben's ben's uh beautiful 1036 00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:03,760 creation man he's he's a hell of a 1037 00:37:08,950 --> 00:37:06,160 gravity artist and uh 1038 00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:08,960 he does it for a living so you know we 1039 00:37:13,109 --> 00:37:10,560 lucked out 1040 00:37:14,790 --> 00:37:13,119 considering he's the graphic artist i 1041 00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:14,800 don't think you should be giving him 1042 00:37:17,990 --> 00:37:17,040 crap on the name of the color of his 1043 00:37:19,109 --> 00:37:18,000 shirt 1044 00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:19,119 yeah 1045 00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:21,440 he can he tell you what color that is 1046 00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:22,880 you don't tell him what color that kid 1047 00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:23,520 is 1048 00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:25,250 he's guessing he doesn't know 1049 00:37:29,670 --> 00:37:27,359 [Laughter] 1050 00:37:31,109 --> 00:37:29,680 it's not blue thank you it is teal isn't 1051 00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:31,119 it 1052 00:37:41,349 --> 00:37:39,990 what is uh 1053 00:37:42,870 --> 00:37:41,359 your guys 1054 00:37:43,750 --> 00:37:42,880 kind of thought 1055 00:37:46,150 --> 00:37:43,760 on 1056 00:37:49,090 --> 00:37:46,160 the source of these 1057 00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:49,100 crafts that we see flying around 1058 00:37:56,790 --> 00:37:54,870 if it would back up 1059 00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:56,800 like where my train of thought was like 1060 00:37:59,510 --> 00:37:58,079 my train of thought was going a certain 1061 00:38:01,190 --> 00:37:59,520 way and i was like well if if that's 1062 00:38:03,670 --> 00:38:01,200 true then these things got to be there's 1063 00:38:04,870 --> 00:38:03,680 got to be a lot of them all the time 1064 00:38:06,470 --> 00:38:04,880 and then you go to sit down and you're 1065 00:38:08,790 --> 00:38:06,480 like oh crap there's a lot of them all 1066 00:38:11,190 --> 00:38:08,800 the time so 1067 00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:11,200 yeah i man 1068 00:38:15,030 --> 00:38:13,760 i've got so many different ideas but you 1069 00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:15,040 know 1070 00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:17,040 lately i've kind of had this like idea 1071 00:38:23,190 --> 00:38:19,200 that you know it's we always view it as 1072 00:38:26,950 --> 00:38:25,430 and i kind of like 1073 00:38:28,790 --> 00:38:26,960 my train of thought is kind of more of 1074 00:38:30,710 --> 00:38:28,800 like maybe this is a way more of a human 1075 00:38:32,710 --> 00:38:30,720 experience than we think it is like it's 1076 00:38:34,150 --> 00:38:32,720 way more connected to the human 1077 00:38:36,150 --> 00:38:34,160 experience than 1078 00:38:37,109 --> 00:38:36,160 than we even realize 1079 00:38:39,270 --> 00:38:37,119 um 1080 00:38:40,870 --> 00:38:39,280 but then the other half of me is like oh 1081 00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:40,880 well that's just your dumb monkey brain 1082 00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:43,040 trying to make it all about yourself 1083 00:38:47,109 --> 00:38:45,200 you know we we have to tell ourselves 1084 00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:47,119 that that a lot too that's a good thing 1085 00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:49,040 to tell yourself because it really i 1086 00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:51,040 think keeping ourselves in check is part 1087 00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:53,040 of just critical thinking 1088 00:38:59,190 --> 00:38:55,839 you know or else it just turns into 1089 00:39:01,430 --> 00:38:59,200 an ego based like tangent rant and you 1090 00:39:03,109 --> 00:39:01,440 know you get nowhere with it so 1091 00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:03,119 yeah putting yourself in check is 1092 00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:05,040 definitely a thing you should get in 1093 00:39:08,550 --> 00:39:06,320 habit of doing 1094 00:39:12,310 --> 00:39:08,560 yeah yeah it's all about me i'm the only 1095 00:39:14,069 --> 00:39:12,320 person in the universe uh but 1096 00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:14,079 yeah no you're you're you're thought 1097 00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:15,280 that they're 1098 00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:18,240 part of the human experience actually 1099 00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:20,400 lines up quite a bit with the train of 1100 00:39:25,510 --> 00:39:22,400 thought i've been on lately that 1101 00:39:28,390 --> 00:39:25,520 i mean i don't think they're um 1102 00:39:30,710 --> 00:39:28,400 aliens from another planet that on their 1103 00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:30,720 own developed technology to the point 1104 00:39:35,589 --> 00:39:34,320 where they made craft that they could 1105 00:39:37,829 --> 00:39:35,599 travel 1106 00:39:39,990 --> 00:39:37,839 to earth 1107 00:39:41,829 --> 00:39:40,000 doesn't make sense to me when there's 1108 00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:41,839 two there's too many ufos for that to be 1109 00:39:46,870 --> 00:39:42,880 the case 1110 00:39:50,470 --> 00:39:49,030 the the interactions between us and them 1111 00:39:51,829 --> 00:39:50,480 would be very different i think they 1112 00:39:53,349 --> 00:39:51,839 would be 1113 00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:53,359 much more hidden 1114 00:39:56,710 --> 00:39:54,960 you know they wouldn't want us to know 1115 00:39:58,310 --> 00:39:56,720 they're there 1116 00:40:00,390 --> 00:39:58,320 and 1117 00:40:01,990 --> 00:40:00,400 i i think there's more to it than that 1118 00:40:02,790 --> 00:40:02,000 at the moment yeah 1119 00:40:04,630 --> 00:40:02,800 you know 1120 00:40:07,349 --> 00:40:04,640 i got to go off what i experience or see 1121 00:40:09,430 --> 00:40:07,359 here you know my the concept is if if 1122 00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:09,440 the concept isn't constantly changing 1123 00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:10,960 then i think you're 1124 00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:12,720 you're on the wrong foot it's got to be 1125 00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:14,480 always evolving as you as you move 1126 00:40:19,349 --> 00:40:17,040 through so yeah for sure and i mean i i 1127 00:40:21,510 --> 00:40:19,359 i absolutely love the idea that it's 1128 00:40:23,750 --> 00:40:21,520 another civilization with badass 1129 00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:23,760 technology that's flying by 1130 00:40:27,829 --> 00:40:25,920 and you just kind of catch it on 1131 00:40:30,309 --> 00:40:27,839 accident you know right i think that's 1132 00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:30,319 freaking amazing first of all i imagine 1133 00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:32,560 some of them would have to be like 1134 00:40:35,829 --> 00:40:34,480 understanding higher level being and you 1135 00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:35,839 want to go 1136 00:40:40,870 --> 00:40:38,640 see what it's like 1137 00:40:42,630 --> 00:40:40,880 touring a prison planet like earth i 1138 00:40:44,390 --> 00:40:42,640 mean yeah you know they come and fly 1139 00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:44,400 around and see what it's like in the 1140 00:40:49,349 --> 00:40:47,200 [\h__\h] or in the suck how about that yeah 1141 00:40:50,870 --> 00:40:49,359 i mean welcome to the truck i would have 1142 00:40:53,349 --> 00:40:50,880 to assume that 1143 00:40:55,750 --> 00:40:53,359 it's not all the same thing 1144 00:40:58,150 --> 00:40:55,760 um and you know i always you know me and 1145 00:40:59,829 --> 00:40:58,160 ben always talk about this how like 1146 00:41:02,309 --> 00:40:59,839 maybe in our search for 1147 00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:02,319 little green men in a flying saucer we 1148 00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:05,119 actually found way more than we thought 1149 00:41:09,510 --> 00:41:06,880 but we're still thinking about little 1150 00:41:12,069 --> 00:41:09,520 green men and flying saucers and like we 1151 00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:12,079 haven't made it to like what we actually 1152 00:41:16,470 --> 00:41:14,800 have found now we did actually find 1153 00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:16,480 those little green men in saucers but 1154 00:41:20,470 --> 00:41:18,160 we've also found a lot of other [\h__\h] and 1155 00:41:21,990 --> 00:41:20,480 now we're just confused ourselves 1156 00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:22,000 to where like we're just assuming it's 1157 00:41:27,030 --> 00:41:24,160 this one thing but it's i think it's 1158 00:41:29,270 --> 00:41:27,040 multiple things that we're starting to 1159 00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:29,280 observe and see and maybe 1160 00:41:34,390 --> 00:41:32,480 whatever it is or they are is also 1161 00:41:36,870 --> 00:41:34,400 noticing that and maybe there's just you 1162 00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:36,880 know there's more action happening like 1163 00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:37,839 maybe 1164 00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:39,040 as a whole 1165 00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:42,160 human civilization is is is 1166 00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:44,560 becoming more aware of the situation you 1167 00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:46,480 know it doesn't necessarily mean we're 1168 00:41:50,710 --> 00:41:48,400 smarter or more mature we're just now 1169 00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:50,720 becoming aware of it 1170 00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:53,040 now we have the technology that lets us 1171 00:41:57,430 --> 00:41:54,880 be more you know now we just have the 1172 00:41:59,109 --> 00:41:57,440 option to share information so much more 1173 00:42:00,470 --> 00:41:59,119 that it's like we're being given the op 1174 00:42:02,230 --> 00:42:00,480 yeah like you said it doesn't mean we're 1175 00:42:03,829 --> 00:42:02,240 any smarter but we have the option to 1176 00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:03,839 share a lot more now to give us the 1177 00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:05,839 opportunity to get smarter i think 1178 00:42:09,829 --> 00:42:07,200 yeah um 1179 00:42:12,710 --> 00:42:09,839 what is your 1180 00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:12,720 thoughts on the 1181 00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:17,200 um reincarnating souls idea 1182 00:42:27,109 --> 00:42:25,589 um i'm on the train of thought at least 1183 00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:27,119 i'll take a train of thought all the way 1184 00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:28,640 to the end of the tracks just to see 1185 00:42:32,470 --> 00:42:30,720 where it led doesn't mean i'm married to 1186 00:42:35,109 --> 00:42:32,480 it or that's what i believe you know yes 1187 00:42:37,750 --> 00:42:35,119 i think that's part of the process so 1188 00:42:40,069 --> 00:42:37,760 at this point i'm kind of 1189 00:42:42,390 --> 00:42:40,079 under an impression that possibly 1190 00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:42,400 these craft 1191 00:42:47,109 --> 00:42:45,040 are related to the human experience in 1192 00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:47,119 the sense that 1193 00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:49,760 they're the infrastructure that keeps 1194 00:42:58,069 --> 00:42:55,750 process here going that process being 1195 00:43:00,710 --> 00:42:58,079 souls reincarnating so that they can 1196 00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:00,720 eventually mature enough to graduate 1197 00:43:04,790 --> 00:43:03,359 this low-level existence and go live on 1198 00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:04,800 a higher level 1199 00:43:09,270 --> 00:43:06,960 like the beings in that crowd 1200 00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:09,280 dude you just said something that i 1201 00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:11,040 fully resonate with 1202 00:43:13,109 --> 00:43:12,400 right now with my train of thought of 1203 00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:13,119 like 1204 00:43:16,710 --> 00:43:15,040 i've been working on this idea based on 1205 00:43:18,470 --> 00:43:16,720 a dream that i had and i would that's 1206 00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:18,480 why i feel like the truth the real truth 1207 00:43:21,670 --> 00:43:19,839 is going to resonate with all of us when 1208 00:43:23,510 --> 00:43:21,680 we hear it you know yeah like i feel 1209 00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:23,520 like when we hear the truth it's like oh 1210 00:43:27,270 --> 00:43:25,200 that's real you know 1211 00:43:30,950 --> 00:43:27,280 dude okay so what was your dream let me 1212 00:43:32,069 --> 00:43:30,960 explain so i my my dream was uh i'm like 1213 00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:32,079 kind of standing on this kind of 1214 00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:34,160 platform you remember that that scene in 1215 00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:35,359 star wars were on that they're on those 1216 00:43:40,710 --> 00:43:38,319 floating circle platforms and yeah like 1217 00:43:42,950 --> 00:43:40,720 there's all these these rose galactic 1218 00:43:44,870 --> 00:43:42,960 federation 1219 00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:44,880 and then you see like pt like partying 1220 00:43:48,309 --> 00:43:46,560 downstairs with like the 1221 00:43:49,910 --> 00:43:48,319 like yeah and then yoda has a lightsaber 1222 00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:49,920 fight in there and all that yeah yeah 1223 00:43:52,829 --> 00:43:51,119 yeah yeah they're like throwing mardi 1224 00:43:55,430 --> 00:43:52,839 gras beads it's free it's all 1225 00:43:58,069 --> 00:43:55,440 right so i'm just like on one of those 1226 00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:58,079 platforms and to my right is a tall gray 1227 00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:00,720 alien like typical i mean just i you 1228 00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:02,800 know dreams right and he hands me this 1229 00:44:07,670 --> 00:44:05,680 coin and on one side it's like this red 1230 00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:07,680 velvet i don't know it's really weird 1231 00:44:11,829 --> 00:44:09,680 but on the other side is it's gold and 1232 00:44:14,309 --> 00:44:11,839 it has this shape 1233 00:44:15,349 --> 00:44:14,319 and it looks kind of familiar right like 1234 00:44:17,589 --> 00:44:15,359 yeah 1235 00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:17,599 so it basically it was like a human 1236 00:44:21,670 --> 00:44:20,160 figure with these dots like at the head 1237 00:44:23,430 --> 00:44:21,680 and where the hands are and one where 1238 00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:23,440 the stomach is and two where the feet in 1239 00:44:26,790 --> 00:44:25,760 is and then i kind of draw it out a 1240 00:44:28,550 --> 00:44:26,800 little 1241 00:44:31,270 --> 00:44:28,560 like one below it looks a lot like 1242 00:44:33,190 --> 00:44:31,280 chakras kind of but it it oh definitely 1243 00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:33,200 like the sense to me like that it was 1244 00:44:36,790 --> 00:44:35,280 more uh more like a 1245 00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:36,800 like you said prison planet earlier it 1246 00:44:41,270 --> 00:44:39,520 was more like a shackle in a way so yeah 1247 00:44:43,510 --> 00:44:41,280 but but it wasn't like a negative vibe 1248 00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:43,520 that i got but that's the imagery 1249 00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:45,280 from the dream and then that prison 1250 00:44:48,470 --> 00:44:47,200 planet being 1251 00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:48,480 people could 1252 00:44:52,470 --> 00:44:50,880 take that i that word or phrase and run 1253 00:44:56,230 --> 00:44:52,480 with it in the wrong direction so let me 1254 00:44:59,670 --> 00:44:56,240 maybe explain that a little better if 1255 00:45:02,069 --> 00:44:59,680 if you can understand the idea that 1256 00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:02,079 let's just say hypothetically the three 1257 00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:04,400 of us right our souls that are 1258 00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:06,560 incarnated in these bodies before this 1259 00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:09,040 life the three of us let's say actually 1260 00:45:14,710 --> 00:45:12,160 existed on a higher level than this one 1261 00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:14,720 and in that life 1262 00:45:20,470 --> 00:45:17,680 we existed for a long time in a 1263 00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:20,480 utopian type place but we learned that 1264 00:45:25,430 --> 00:45:22,560 there were even higher levels than that 1265 00:45:27,910 --> 00:45:25,440 and at one point we all decided 1266 00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:27,920 we wanted to access those higher levels 1267 00:45:32,790 --> 00:45:30,160 to gain even more privileges and we had 1268 00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:32,800 saved the privilege of having a ufo or 1269 00:45:36,790 --> 00:45:34,480 being able to travel and dementia 1270 00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:36,800 whatever the privileges could be 1271 00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:39,200 so then the 1272 00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:41,280 watchers would say 1273 00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:42,480 the reason you don't have those 1274 00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:44,480 privileges is because your soul still 1275 00:45:48,630 --> 00:45:47,040 has some little bits of baggage that i 1276 00:45:50,550 --> 00:45:48,640 picked up over all millions of 1277 00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:50,560 incarnations so if you want to get rid 1278 00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:52,160 of that baggage 1279 00:45:55,990 --> 00:45:54,319 you can go to this 1280 00:45:58,230 --> 00:45:56,000 through this program 1281 00:45:59,510 --> 00:45:58,240 that gives you the chance to get rid of 1282 00:46:01,589 --> 00:45:59,520 that baggage 1283 00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:01,599 doesn't mean you will 1284 00:46:05,349 --> 00:46:03,280 you could add to it and you could get 1285 00:46:06,309 --> 00:46:05,359 stuck in that program for a whole long 1286 00:46:09,109 --> 00:46:06,319 time 1287 00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:09,119 however you're given the chance to do it 1288 00:46:13,109 --> 00:46:10,960 and when you do it 1289 00:46:16,309 --> 00:46:13,119 and die then you would have graduated 1290 00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:16,319 upper level and so prison planet means 1291 00:46:22,309 --> 00:46:19,760 when you're in a utopian society 1292 00:46:24,309 --> 00:46:22,319 knowledge is instant you're like plugged 1293 00:46:25,270 --> 00:46:24,319 into the hive of knowledge right so you 1294 00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:25,280 have 1295 00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:28,400 all knowledge you don't need to think 1296 00:46:31,510 --> 00:46:29,520 because 1297 00:46:32,710 --> 00:46:31,520 as soon as you want information it's 1298 00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:32,720 there 1299 00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:35,440 so when we're disconnected from that and 1300 00:46:40,470 --> 00:46:38,240 put on a rock like this 1301 00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:40,480 where almost every thought we have is 1302 00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:42,880 probably what based on our own ego or 1303 00:46:48,150 --> 00:46:45,760 some self-driven thing 1304 00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:48,160 in my prison compared to a utopian 1305 00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:50,319 society so i mean it's not like only bad 1306 00:46:54,829 --> 00:46:51,920 things happen here or that type of thing 1307 00:46:58,230 --> 00:46:54,839 when i say prison planet but relative to 1308 00:46:59,990 --> 00:46:58,240 uh hive mind utopian society this would 1309 00:47:01,990 --> 00:47:00,000 seem like a prison planet for sure dude 1310 00:47:03,990 --> 00:47:02,000 i i resonate with that 100 percent 1311 00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:04,000 because the feeling i got and the the 1312 00:47:08,150 --> 00:47:06,160 ideas were not negative it was just like 1313 00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:08,160 i mean what you're saying is 1314 00:47:14,230 --> 00:47:10,400 yeah that makes sense to me and and the 1315 00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:14,240 watcher thing those are like kind of the 1316 00:47:18,309 --> 00:47:16,319 you know hey let's just make sure that 1317 00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:18,319 no one from the outside sneaks into this 1318 00:47:24,069 --> 00:47:20,880 training ground and you know messes up 1319 00:47:26,950 --> 00:47:24,079 or they let the people sneak in as much 1320 00:47:27,910 --> 00:47:26,960 to keep the biome going you know it's 1321 00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:27,920 like they're 1322 00:47:31,670 --> 00:47:29,440 there are people sneaking in and out 1323 00:47:33,990 --> 00:47:31,680 there's renegade aliens and reptilians 1324 00:47:36,069 --> 00:47:34,000 however at some level 1325 00:47:36,790 --> 00:47:36,079 they're definitely being allowed to do 1326 00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:36,800 it 1327 00:47:43,190 --> 00:47:42,160 evil and dark and sinister but you know 1328 00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:43,200 it's 1329 00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:45,680 much like the way like our own society 1330 00:47:48,790 --> 00:47:47,520 works with clearances in the government 1331 00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:48,800 you know you're at the bottom nothing 1332 00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:50,160 makes sense but when you're at the very 1333 00:47:53,349 --> 00:47:52,079 top you understand the decisions being 1334 00:47:55,349 --> 00:47:53,359 made and how they trickle down and 1335 00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:55,359 affect everything else so 1336 00:47:58,710 --> 00:47:56,880 it doesn't seem as 1337 00:48:01,030 --> 00:47:58,720 bad when one little 1338 00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:01,040 uh root of that tree goes rotten you 1339 00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:02,640 know it's well we have to get that that 1340 00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:04,079 was to sacrifice for all the other ones 1341 00:48:08,790 --> 00:48:06,720 to work out so you know you can hear 1342 00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:08,800 stories of whole planets being destroyed 1343 00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:10,720 and those souls being spread out to 1344 00:48:13,589 --> 00:48:12,240 other parts of the universe and stuff 1345 00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:13,599 like that 1346 00:48:16,710 --> 00:48:15,280 and i've read those books and reports 1347 00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:16,720 and 1348 00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:18,400 i imagine to the people on the planet 1349 00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:20,000 that was destroyed it seemed like the 1350 00:48:23,670 --> 00:48:22,079 worst thing ever but if they knew that 1351 00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:23,680 they were going to be seeding future 1352 00:48:31,510 --> 00:48:29,910 probably benefit for the long run so you 1353 00:48:33,910 --> 00:48:31,520 know it's kind of i 1354 00:48:34,790 --> 00:48:33,920 people say the bradshaw ranch is cursed 1355 00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:34,800 right 1356 00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:37,200 yeah and i think why do you say that 1357 00:48:41,670 --> 00:48:39,520 because because there's giant footprints 1358 00:48:43,510 --> 00:48:41,680 walking around and what does cursed mean 1359 00:48:45,030 --> 00:48:43,520 to them right the fact that there's a 1360 00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:45,040 bigfoot walking around and they're 1361 00:48:48,549 --> 00:48:47,280 afraid of a bigfoot to me that doesn't 1362 00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:48,559 mean it's cursed 1363 00:48:51,510 --> 00:48:49,760 you know it just means you're afraid of 1364 00:48:53,270 --> 00:48:51,520 it and so you 1365 00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:53,280 i think getting over our fears is one of 1366 00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:54,559 the tricks of 1367 00:49:00,549 --> 00:48:57,119 encountering these things out there 1368 00:49:03,750 --> 00:49:00,559 yeah for sure that uh that acceptance of 1369 00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:03,760 the whole thing 1370 00:49:07,589 --> 00:49:06,400 yeah yeah i mean dude 1371 00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:07,599 there's 1372 00:49:15,430 --> 00:49:12,400 i'm so curious and very uh like 1373 00:49:16,710 --> 00:49:15,440 open-minded um but you know it's always 1374 00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:16,720 different 1375 00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:18,400 whenever you're put in that situation 1376 00:49:21,990 --> 00:49:19,599 you know 1377 00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:22,000 oh yeah your open-mindedness becomes 1378 00:49:26,309 --> 00:49:23,760 like oh [\h__\h] 1379 00:49:29,589 --> 00:49:26,319 am i am i an idiot why am i here right 1380 00:49:31,109 --> 00:49:29,599 now and trying to contain that and focus 1381 00:49:33,270 --> 00:49:31,119 and be like okay 1382 00:49:34,710 --> 00:49:33,280 there's a big foot i'm not going to 1383 00:49:37,030 --> 00:49:34,720 freak out right 1384 00:49:38,230 --> 00:49:37,040 that's got it 1385 00:49:40,390 --> 00:49:38,240 i've gotten to give people that 1386 00:49:43,510 --> 00:49:40,400 experience on accident and only one time 1387 00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:43,520 that i kind of feel bad about it and 1388 00:49:46,549 --> 00:49:44,800 it was 1389 00:49:49,349 --> 00:49:46,559 maybe two years ago 1390 00:49:51,349 --> 00:49:49,359 and i was on melinda's tour 1391 00:49:52,710 --> 00:49:51,359 and i brought this girl i know olivia on 1392 00:49:54,549 --> 00:49:52,720 the tour because she really wanted to 1393 00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:54,559 see ufos and i kept telling her like 1394 00:49:58,870 --> 00:49:56,960 it's not scary like you'll see them 1395 00:50:00,549 --> 00:49:58,880 flying way above our heads like there's 1396 00:50:01,670 --> 00:50:00,559 nothing to be afraid of 1397 00:50:03,030 --> 00:50:01,680 you know you guys have seen them out 1398 00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:03,040 there like 1399 00:50:08,150 --> 00:50:05,920 it isn't a close encounter it's it's a 1400 00:50:09,750 --> 00:50:08,160 feels safe every time i've gone so she 1401 00:50:11,990 --> 00:50:09,760 was oh she was fine with it and then 1402 00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:12,000 we'd go on the tour 1403 00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:13,680 and melinda will tell you like it was 1404 00:50:17,109 --> 00:50:15,359 one of the craziest nights she's ever 1405 00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:17,119 had 1406 00:50:22,710 --> 00:50:20,160 this ufo kept flying low over our heads 1407 00:50:24,150 --> 00:50:22,720 like six seven times like it was really 1408 00:50:25,829 --> 00:50:24,160 bizarre and 1409 00:50:27,510 --> 00:50:25,839 you could only see it with night vision 1410 00:50:28,950 --> 00:50:27,520 but without night vision we could still 1411 00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:28,960 bounce our laser off it so you're 1412 00:50:32,470 --> 00:50:30,480 bouncing your laser off of nothing in 1413 00:50:34,549 --> 00:50:32,480 the sky and 1414 00:50:36,549 --> 00:50:34,559 like six seven times it came by and then 1415 00:50:39,349 --> 00:50:36,559 she was elbowing me like 1416 00:50:40,870 --> 00:50:39,359 i'm i'm almost ready to maybe this is is 1417 00:50:45,829 --> 00:50:40,880 it a little bit scary you said that this 1418 00:50:49,430 --> 00:50:47,589 yeah that was not at all regular that 1419 00:50:51,030 --> 00:50:49,440 was not what happens the rest of the 1420 00:50:52,309 --> 00:50:51,040 trips were out there 1421 00:50:53,030 --> 00:50:52,319 so yeah it is 1422 00:50:54,950 --> 00:50:53,040 it's 1423 00:50:56,630 --> 00:50:54,960 you can't expect it i've learned you 1424 00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:56,640 can't tell people like oh it won't be 1425 00:50:59,670 --> 00:50:57,839 scary because we don't know how the 1426 00:51:02,230 --> 00:50:59,680 phenomenon's going to appear that day or 1427 00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:02,240 that night so right how to make people 1428 00:51:06,309 --> 00:51:04,480 ready for whatever could happen 1429 00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:06,319 yeah 1430 00:51:12,549 --> 00:51:10,960 object and it would reflect the laser 1431 00:51:14,069 --> 00:51:12,559 back down 1432 00:51:14,790 --> 00:51:14,079 because it's bouncing 1433 00:51:17,190 --> 00:51:14,800 right 1434 00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:17,200 it was much weirder than that it was 1435 00:51:21,750 --> 00:51:19,520 it would fly above our head and with 1436 00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:21,760 night vision with the gen 3 night vision 1437 00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:23,680 you could see the craft and you could 1438 00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:27,119 see light bending around it like like in 1439 00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:29,680 a motion right like like the predator's 1440 00:51:34,549 --> 00:51:32,160 armor in the movie predator yeah 1441 00:51:37,510 --> 00:51:34,559 and as it was there i would take my 1442 00:51:39,589 --> 00:51:37,520 night vision down and there is nothing 1443 00:51:42,069 --> 00:51:39,599 in the sky i mean you can just see the 1444 00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:42,079 stars like any other night but i would 1445 00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:44,160 shine my laser at the spot in the sky 1446 00:51:48,150 --> 00:51:45,920 where i knew it was 1447 00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:48,160 and the laser would reflect like it was 1448 00:51:52,950 --> 00:51:50,559 bouncing off of your car headlight but 1449 00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:52,960 there's nothing there to reflect it back 1450 00:51:57,030 --> 00:51:54,960 it's just bouncing off of 1451 00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:57,040 nothing in the sky but it's clearly 1452 00:52:01,349 --> 00:51:59,040 hitting something shiny and metal and 1453 00:52:04,549 --> 00:52:01,359 reflecting all over off of it but 1454 00:52:07,510 --> 00:52:04,559 there's nothing there like it was really 1455 00:52:10,230 --> 00:52:07,520 [\h__\h] bizarre man it was really weird 1456 00:52:11,349 --> 00:52:10,240 yeah yeah like that was an alien craft 1457 00:52:13,349 --> 00:52:11,359 it wasn't 1458 00:52:15,589 --> 00:52:13,359 uh 1459 00:52:18,390 --> 00:52:15,599 anything i ever thought i would come 1460 00:52:20,870 --> 00:52:18,400 close to seeing in person i mean it kind 1461 00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:20,880 of sounded like the craft that bob lazar 1462 00:52:25,030 --> 00:52:23,119 talks about them testifying at us for 1463 00:52:27,270 --> 00:52:25,040 i think he even said it was bending 1464 00:52:28,950 --> 00:52:27,280 gravity around itself so when he stood 1465 00:52:31,109 --> 00:52:28,960 under it he couldn't see it because the 1466 00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:31,119 light would bend around it it's just a 1467 00:52:34,790 --> 00:52:33,920 natural byproduct of the way they travel 1468 00:52:37,829 --> 00:52:34,800 so 1469 00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:37,839 yeah yeah but to see it for yourself is 1470 00:52:43,030 --> 00:52:39,920 really strange 1471 00:52:44,309 --> 00:52:43,040 the more i uh you know we're all on on a 1472 00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:44,319 journey right of understanding this 1473 00:52:49,030 --> 00:52:46,720 phenomenon and right now i think 1474 00:52:52,549 --> 00:52:49,040 anything that has to do with technology 1475 00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:52,559 and like physical like engines or power 1476 00:52:57,270 --> 00:52:54,240 the using of power 1477 00:52:59,670 --> 00:52:57,280 that to me screams that it's human or 1478 00:53:01,829 --> 00:52:59,680 something like human and then these i 1479 00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:01,839 guess that will eventually get to that 1480 00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:03,599 level here someday right like it seems 1481 00:53:07,109 --> 00:53:05,359 like um 1482 00:53:08,950 --> 00:53:07,119 like a thousand years ago if we showed 1483 00:53:10,790 --> 00:53:08,960 them a motorcycle 1484 00:53:13,750 --> 00:53:10,800 yeah you know it would be the most 1485 00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:13,760 foreign object ever to them 1486 00:53:18,710 --> 00:53:15,839 and to them it would be as equivalent as 1487 00:53:20,630 --> 00:53:18,720 weird as a ufo right but a thousand 1488 00:53:22,549 --> 00:53:20,640 years later it organically just kind of 1489 00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:22,559 so i mean i think that you're right due 1490 00:53:25,829 --> 00:53:24,480 to the fact these craft have engines and 1491 00:53:27,349 --> 00:53:25,839 things like that 1492 00:53:29,270 --> 00:53:27,359 i mean 1493 00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:29,280 i'm i'm not against the idea that we 1494 00:53:32,390 --> 00:53:31,440 could eventually have that tech here too 1495 00:53:34,470 --> 00:53:32,400 right 1496 00:53:36,230 --> 00:53:34,480 yeah i i guess what i'm trying to 1497 00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:36,240 separate in my mind right now and i just 1498 00:53:39,829 --> 00:53:37,920 love people asking people this question 1499 00:53:42,390 --> 00:53:39,839 like you know when you see when you talk 1500 00:53:44,549 --> 00:53:42,400 about orbs or if you've seen orbs and 1501 00:53:48,150 --> 00:53:44,559 you get the feeling when you see orbs 1502 00:53:50,069 --> 00:53:48,160 that they're it's just not the same as 1503 00:53:51,910 --> 00:53:50,079 something physical 1504 00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:51,920 that it's it's lit like the best word 1505 00:53:56,069 --> 00:53:53,680 for it right now that that's been kind 1506 00:53:57,670 --> 00:53:56,079 of going around is like a celestial that 1507 00:53:59,589 --> 00:53:57,680 they just they don't they just can think 1508 00:54:01,750 --> 00:53:59,599 about something and travel 1509 00:54:03,829 --> 00:54:01,760 light years or to a different universe 1510 00:54:05,910 --> 00:54:03,839 they don't need any 1511 00:54:08,069 --> 00:54:05,920 scenery or anything like that 1512 00:54:10,710 --> 00:54:08,079 so 1513 00:54:12,710 --> 00:54:10,720 i could under completely understand 1514 00:54:15,510 --> 00:54:12,720 coming to that conclusion with how 1515 00:54:17,829 --> 00:54:15,520 bizarre those orbs are and i heard 1516 00:54:20,309 --> 00:54:17,839 something from a source that is one of 1517 00:54:21,589 --> 00:54:20,319 the only reliable sources i have on this 1518 00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:21,599 stuff 1519 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,670 like a little 1520 00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:31,190 shuttle 1521 00:54:37,430 --> 00:54:34,720 they take from a ufo 1522 00:54:39,829 --> 00:54:37,440 and so there would be a entity in the 1523 00:54:42,549 --> 00:54:39,839 orb it's not taking the whole craft down 1524 00:54:44,710 --> 00:54:42,559 it's just taking its little dingy bow 1525 00:54:46,549 --> 00:54:44,720 and going and looking around in that 1526 00:54:49,430 --> 00:54:46,559 because it didn't really need anything 1527 00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:49,440 that it has on the actual craft and when 1528 00:54:53,349 --> 00:54:51,040 i heard that 1529 00:54:54,710 --> 00:54:53,359 it like it resonated with me and like oh 1530 00:54:56,549 --> 00:54:54,720 that might be true 1531 00:54:58,069 --> 00:54:56,559 i don't know if they had that level of 1532 00:55:00,470 --> 00:54:58,079 tech in that craft they would certainly 1533 00:55:01,829 --> 00:55:00,480 have some little surveillance object 1534 00:55:04,230 --> 00:55:01,839 they could 1535 00:55:05,910 --> 00:55:04,240 go in and use so 1536 00:55:06,870 --> 00:55:05,920 i haven't ruled that out i'll just say 1537 00:55:08,789 --> 00:55:06,880 that you know i don't like to really 1538 00:55:10,630 --> 00:55:08,799 rule out anything unless there's hard 1539 00:55:13,670 --> 00:55:10,640 facts against it but yeah like you're 1540 00:55:15,750 --> 00:55:13,680 saying i i think they're the orbs are 1541 00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:15,760 are more than um 1542 00:55:18,950 --> 00:55:17,520 just little balls of light i think i 1543 00:55:20,789 --> 00:55:18,960 think there's some intelligence behind 1544 00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:20,799 them in some way 1545 00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:23,760 yeah dude i love it hey well uh speaking 1546 00:55:27,990 --> 00:55:26,640 of oh uh well damien had just popped in 1547 00:55:31,430 --> 00:55:28,000 uh 1548 00:55:32,870 --> 00:55:31,440 to grab a cup of coffee or something oh 1549 00:55:34,789 --> 00:55:32,880 here he is 1550 00:55:36,150 --> 00:55:34,799 my internet keeps from doing weird stuff 1551 00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:36,160 i'm not sure what's going on i don't 1552 00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:37,440 know where he's it's not me though i'm 1553 00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:40,240 sorry fine yeah 1554 00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:41,760 just a second joe did it looks like 1555 00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:43,520 damian's here are you allowed to can you 1556 00:55:49,109 --> 00:55:45,839 let him in oh yeah dude yeah i'll be 1557 00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:49,119 right back all right 1558 00:55:55,910 --> 00:55:53,440 damien's in the house here we go 1559 00:55:59,109 --> 00:55:55,920 all right 1560 00:56:00,789 --> 00:55:59,119 damian hello sir how are you 1561 00:56:02,789 --> 00:56:00,799 hey i'm good i'm not sure if i'm 1562 00:56:04,230 --> 00:56:02,799 supposed to be sideways or upright but 1563 00:56:05,349 --> 00:56:04,240 you're good just like that man that's 1564 00:56:08,069 --> 00:56:05,359 perfect 1565 00:56:09,990 --> 00:56:08,079 cool how's it going it's going good man 1566 00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:10,000 glad you could make it dude 1567 00:56:14,789 --> 00:56:12,880 yeah yeah i i was uh a little confused 1568 00:56:16,710 --> 00:56:14,799 with the time zones i think but yeah i'm 1569 00:56:18,789 --> 00:56:16,720 here i'm glad you're still on 1570 00:56:21,589 --> 00:56:18,799 it's it's always a little confusing man 1571 00:56:23,349 --> 00:56:21,599 so it's totally cool it's totally cool 1572 00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:23,359 uh yeah man we've been we've just been 1573 00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:26,559 having a good uh a good ass conversation 1574 00:56:31,109 --> 00:56:28,480 about this documentary that you guys put 1575 00:56:33,670 --> 00:56:31,119 together very impressive loved it 1576 00:56:35,829 --> 00:56:33,680 watched the whole thing like in in one 1577 00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:35,839 sit like everybody in the chat's been 1578 00:56:40,309 --> 00:56:38,000 saying the same thing they they've all 1579 00:56:42,390 --> 00:56:40,319 had a really good time enjoying uh 1580 00:56:44,470 --> 00:56:42,400 watching the film and stuff and 1581 00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:44,480 congratulations on the hundred thousand 1582 00:56:48,870 --> 00:56:47,920 views man yeah today that's good stuff 1583 00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:48,880 yes yeah 1584 00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:50,400 sir 1585 00:56:54,069 --> 00:56:51,920 so how was uh 1586 00:56:56,549 --> 00:56:54,079 how was how was this experience for you 1587 00:56:59,270 --> 00:56:56,559 man getting a chance to kind of hang 1588 00:57:01,030 --> 00:56:59,280 around and film some of this stuff 1589 00:57:02,950 --> 00:57:01,040 oh yeah it was awesome you're like i 1590 00:57:05,270 --> 00:57:02,960 went in pretty blind i mean i watched 1591 00:57:07,270 --> 00:57:05,280 the talk with tom donga because when uh 1592 00:57:09,430 --> 00:57:07,280 voodoo tall invited me out 1593 00:57:12,309 --> 00:57:09,440 he said oh just to prepare you 1594 00:57:14,950 --> 00:57:12,319 watch this uh talk that tom dongo gives 1595 00:57:16,789 --> 00:57:14,960 about the bradshaw ranch and so 1596 00:57:19,190 --> 00:57:16,799 so i'm driving there in the car actually 1597 00:57:20,710 --> 00:57:19,200 pretty petrified the whole time like oh 1598 00:57:22,870 --> 00:57:20,720 my god what's gonna happen to me when i 1599 00:57:24,549 --> 00:57:22,880 get to this place 1600 00:57:26,470 --> 00:57:24,559 one of my friends in new york said oh 1601 00:57:30,230 --> 00:57:26,480 make sure you come back 1602 00:57:31,589 --> 00:57:30,240 yeah yeah definitely definitely 1603 00:57:33,589 --> 00:57:31,599 who knew we're going to get so many 1604 00:57:35,349 --> 00:57:33,599 views though like we we were saying we 1605 00:57:38,309 --> 00:57:35,359 were happy if we got you know 1606 00:57:40,309 --> 00:57:38,319 100 views so right 1607 00:57:41,109 --> 00:57:40,319 that you know as many as it has been 1608 00:57:42,150 --> 00:57:41,119 it's just 1609 00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:42,160 amazing 1610 00:57:46,549 --> 00:57:44,720 honestly if if a hundred of the right 1611 00:57:48,150 --> 00:57:46,559 people watched it that would have been 1612 00:57:50,630 --> 00:57:48,160 good enough like just a hundred people 1613 00:57:52,789 --> 00:57:50,640 who like really got something from it 1614 00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:52,799 that would have been fine you know so 1615 00:57:57,030 --> 00:57:54,880 maybe there's just more people who need 1616 00:58:02,630 --> 00:57:57,040 this kind of 1617 00:58:07,589 --> 00:58:03,349 yeah 1618 00:58:09,109 --> 00:58:07,599 definitely hungry for the content you 1619 00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:09,119 know they're they're 1620 00:58:13,349 --> 00:58:11,359 they're enjoying it people's minds are 1621 00:58:15,829 --> 00:58:13,359 starting to open a little bit about the 1622 00:58:18,309 --> 00:58:15,839 subject and that's the cool thing man 1623 00:58:20,870 --> 00:58:18,319 especially right now is that you know 1624 00:58:22,789 --> 00:58:20,880 there are so many people that are 1625 00:58:25,109 --> 00:58:22,799 kind of jumping into the subject and are 1626 00:58:27,990 --> 00:58:25,119 curious and are wanting to click around 1627 00:58:30,630 --> 00:58:28,000 on youtube and and it's nice because you 1628 00:58:33,030 --> 00:58:30,640 usually get little clips of stuff or a 1629 00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:33,040 couple little videos so when you can sit 1630 00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:35,520 down and watch something that is you 1631 00:58:38,710 --> 00:58:36,400 know 1632 00:58:41,589 --> 00:58:38,720 three hours long or four episodes worth 1633 00:58:43,589 --> 00:58:41,599 of material i mean it's great it's hard 1634 00:58:45,829 --> 00:58:43,599 to put it down you know 1635 00:58:47,270 --> 00:58:45,839 yeah yeah and then uh you know hopefully 1636 00:58:49,750 --> 00:58:47,280 people 1637 00:58:52,470 --> 00:58:49,760 like that well damien should be coming 1638 00:58:53,589 --> 00:58:52,480 back out there with me in june so yeah 1639 00:58:55,030 --> 00:58:53,599 we're gonna be 1640 00:58:56,710 --> 00:58:55,040 i'm hoping to bring that you know he 1641 00:58:59,030 --> 00:58:56,720 just comes on as many trips as i can 1642 00:59:00,870 --> 00:58:59,040 take and we can just film you know as 1643 00:59:03,349 --> 00:59:00,880 much as we can and just keep going with 1644 00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:03,359 it because if i hope we can keep filming 1645 00:59:06,470 --> 00:59:05,200 as long as the phenomenon keeps letting 1646 00:59:08,069 --> 00:59:06,480 us 1647 00:59:10,870 --> 00:59:08,079 yeah yeah yeah 1648 00:59:13,510 --> 00:59:10,880 we actually need a uh anybody in sedona 1649 00:59:16,230 --> 00:59:13,520 for the next trip we need someone that 1650 00:59:18,470 --> 00:59:16,240 understands petroglyphs 1651 00:59:20,069 --> 00:59:18,480 oh yeah 1652 00:59:22,309 --> 00:59:20,079 yeah 1653 00:59:24,710 --> 00:59:22,319 but he unfortunately passed away 1654 00:59:26,549 --> 00:59:24,720 yeah yeah i'm sure you can find somebody 1655 00:59:28,710 --> 00:59:26,559 out there i mean 1656 00:59:30,870 --> 00:59:28,720 there's probably somebody who who 1657 00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:30,880 specializes in that kind of especially 1658 00:59:34,630 --> 00:59:32,400 in that area you know you think you'd be 1659 00:59:36,870 --> 00:59:34,640 able to find somebody or i mean you know 1660 00:59:38,789 --> 00:59:36,880 we all got a few friends out there i'm 1661 00:59:41,270 --> 00:59:38,799 sure they would know somebody you know 1662 00:59:42,390 --> 00:59:41,280 so yeah yeah that'd be perfect that's 1663 00:59:43,910 --> 00:59:42,400 what we're kind of looking for so if 1664 00:59:47,270 --> 00:59:43,920 anyone's 1665 00:59:49,349 --> 00:59:47,280 you know is an archaeologist i guess or 1666 00:59:51,430 --> 00:59:49,359 something or a historian of some kind 1667 00:59:53,510 --> 00:59:51,440 who understands 1668 00:59:55,750 --> 00:59:53,520 uh petroglyphs who's got a little bit of 1669 00:59:58,950 --> 00:59:55,760 credibility uh that would be excellent 1670 01:00:00,870 --> 00:59:58,960 for the next um episodes i think that's 1671 01:00:02,549 --> 01:00:00,880 going to be we're already talking we're 1672 01:00:03,670 --> 01:00:02,559 already planning some other people 1673 01:00:04,870 --> 01:00:03,680 as well that are going to be on that 1674 01:00:06,950 --> 01:00:04,880 they're going to be really interesting 1675 01:00:08,870 --> 01:00:06,960 and everyone's going to be really uh 1676 01:00:11,510 --> 01:00:08,880 really stoked when that happens 1677 01:00:14,309 --> 01:00:11,520 that's yeah man that's really cool so so 1678 01:00:17,190 --> 01:00:14,319 what uh so did it meet your expectations 1679 01:00:19,190 --> 01:00:17,200 did it uh you know was it lower was it 1680 01:00:21,030 --> 01:00:19,200 higher was it you know what was your 1681 01:00:23,190 --> 01:00:21,040 feeling after you finally got out there 1682 01:00:26,829 --> 01:00:23,200 and got to kind of experience some stuff 1683 01:00:29,750 --> 01:00:26,839 and kind of hang around it for a while 1684 01:00:31,670 --> 01:00:29,760 um i mean yeah it did meet my 1685 01:00:33,589 --> 01:00:31,680 expectations and more because you know 1686 01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:33,599 we actually captured 1687 01:00:37,430 --> 01:00:35,760 i don't know what on uh at the end of 1688 01:00:38,549 --> 01:00:37,440 the film and if people have watched the 1689 01:00:40,390 --> 01:00:38,559 whole thing 1690 01:00:42,150 --> 01:00:40,400 so i gotta bring that picture up i had 1691 01:00:44,549 --> 01:00:42,160 them bring that picture up on the on the 1692 01:00:45,430 --> 01:00:44,559 show here so they saw it on that 1693 01:00:47,990 --> 01:00:45,440 yeah 1694 01:00:50,069 --> 01:00:48,000 that's that was that was wilds that was 1695 01:00:51,910 --> 01:00:50,079 terrifying 1696 01:00:54,309 --> 01:00:51,920 yes yeah so yeah 1697 01:00:56,309 --> 01:00:54,319 expectations in that sense because who 1698 01:00:58,549 --> 01:00:56,319 who would have thought we would actually 1699 01:01:00,549 --> 01:00:58,559 end up with you know something 1700 01:01:02,710 --> 01:01:00,559 like that i mean capturing the ufos is 1701 01:01:03,910 --> 01:01:02,720 pretty cool and everything like that and 1702 01:01:07,270 --> 01:01:03,920 some of the other things we've got to 1703 01:01:08,309 --> 01:01:07,280 share but to capture some kind of 1704 01:01:10,069 --> 01:01:08,319 creature 1705 01:01:11,589 --> 01:01:10,079 monster or whatever it was you know that 1706 01:01:14,069 --> 01:01:11,599 was right 1707 01:01:14,789 --> 01:01:14,079 you know so 1708 01:01:16,309 --> 01:01:14,799 and 1709 01:01:19,270 --> 01:01:16,319 you know you guys you know you guys 1710 01:01:20,950 --> 01:01:19,280 caught this on film and sometimes it's 1711 01:01:23,670 --> 01:01:20,960 like 1712 01:01:24,470 --> 01:01:23,680 you know being a guy who films things 1713 01:01:25,829 --> 01:01:24,480 you know 1714 01:01:27,589 --> 01:01:25,839 like when you're in these kind of 1715 01:01:29,510 --> 01:01:27,599 situations like 1716 01:01:31,910 --> 01:01:29,520 there's gotta be some kind of like 1717 01:01:33,670 --> 01:01:31,920 superhero vibe going on like okay we 1718 01:01:35,910 --> 01:01:33,680 can't see it with our eyes but we've got 1719 01:01:37,750 --> 01:01:35,920 this camera and this camera is probably 1720 01:01:38,390 --> 01:01:37,760 gonna pick up some wild [\h__\h] you know 1721 01:01:42,710 --> 01:01:38,400 like 1722 01:01:44,309 --> 01:01:42,720 everybody you know everybody always 1723 01:01:45,910 --> 01:01:44,319 expects that like you have the the 1724 01:01:48,069 --> 01:01:45,920 biggest and the best than the most 1725 01:01:50,230 --> 01:01:48,079 high-tech equipment and you got to have 1726 01:01:51,030 --> 01:01:50,240 all this special [\h__\h] to like 1727 01:01:53,589 --> 01:01:51,040 catch 1728 01:01:55,190 --> 01:01:53,599 you know anything and you know this goes 1729 01:01:57,349 --> 01:01:55,200 to prove that really man you just need a 1730 01:01:59,270 --> 01:01:57,359 couple dudes and a camera and you can 1731 01:02:00,950 --> 01:01:59,280 catch some really amazing things you 1732 01:02:02,789 --> 01:02:00,960 know i actually want to touch on that i 1733 01:02:05,910 --> 01:02:02,799 think that 1734 01:02:08,950 --> 01:02:05,920 bringing that stuff out there is hurting 1735 01:02:11,990 --> 01:02:08,960 your chances for the encounters and 1736 01:02:15,349 --> 01:02:12,000 i want to say that because 1737 01:02:18,549 --> 01:02:15,359 most animals on the planet can navigate 1738 01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:18,559 the entire globe because they can sense 1739 01:02:23,589 --> 01:02:21,760 the earth's magnetic field and they can 1740 01:02:28,069 --> 01:02:23,599 use that magnetic field to know where 1741 01:02:29,670 --> 01:02:28,079 they are and how to get 2 000 miles away 1742 01:02:32,309 --> 01:02:29,680 we can't do that 1743 01:02:34,789 --> 01:02:32,319 we also can't detect 1744 01:02:37,589 --> 01:02:34,799 all of the waves and everything coming 1745 01:02:40,150 --> 01:02:37,599 off of all of our electronic devices 1746 01:02:41,430 --> 01:02:40,160 but i'm almost certain 1747 01:02:44,390 --> 01:02:41,440 these 1748 01:02:46,069 --> 01:02:44,400 bigfoot and other high-level creatures 1749 01:02:48,789 --> 01:02:46,079 can because 1750 01:02:50,309 --> 01:02:48,799 they constantly avoid them every time 1751 01:02:52,870 --> 01:02:50,319 you set up 1752 01:02:54,950 --> 01:02:52,880 and i think that 1753 01:02:57,270 --> 01:02:54,960 and this is even more important because 1754 01:02:59,670 --> 01:02:57,280 i don't ever hear people talk about it 1755 01:03:02,549 --> 01:02:59,680 but i'm confident that the patterson 1756 01:03:05,670 --> 01:03:02,559 gimlin footage was captured 1757 01:03:07,270 --> 01:03:05,680 because he was using a mechanical camera 1758 01:03:09,190 --> 01:03:07,280 and the creature 1759 01:03:10,870 --> 01:03:09,200 didn't really realize it was being 1760 01:03:13,109 --> 01:03:10,880 filmed at the time so it just kind of 1761 01:03:14,549 --> 01:03:13,119 walked off instead of doing some 1762 01:03:16,390 --> 01:03:14,559 things that normal it does around 1763 01:03:19,029 --> 01:03:16,400 electronics but 1764 01:03:21,670 --> 01:03:19,039 i wanna i think people should feel 1765 01:03:23,029 --> 01:03:21,680 encouraged to go out without anything 1766 01:03:24,710 --> 01:03:23,039 because you're gonna gain something from 1767 01:03:26,470 --> 01:03:24,720 the personal experience it doesn't have 1768 01:03:29,190 --> 01:03:26,480 to worry only came up with this 1769 01:03:31,829 --> 01:03:29,200 documentary because there was so much 1770 01:03:34,069 --> 01:03:31,839 evidence all we had to do was point our 1771 01:03:35,589 --> 01:03:34,079 cameras at the ground and at the sky and 1772 01:03:37,589 --> 01:03:35,599 walk around 1773 01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:37,599 i don't encourage people to try to go 1774 01:03:41,349 --> 01:03:39,200 out and experience this stuff so they 1775 01:03:43,430 --> 01:03:41,359 can necessarily capture evidence they 1776 01:03:46,390 --> 01:03:43,440 should do it for the value they're going 1777 01:03:49,029 --> 01:03:46,400 to personally gain from the experience 1778 01:03:50,549 --> 01:03:49,039 and if there is physical evidence then 1779 01:03:53,029 --> 01:03:50,559 yes of course you should try and 1780 01:03:55,270 --> 01:03:53,039 document them somehow but don't make 1781 01:03:56,870 --> 01:03:55,280 physical evidence your reason for doing 1782 01:03:58,549 --> 01:03:56,880 it 1783 01:03:59,670 --> 01:03:58,559 because you'll be disappointed 1784 01:04:01,589 --> 01:03:59,680 you really will 1785 01:04:03,829 --> 01:04:01,599 it seems like and this is what i loved 1786 01:04:06,150 --> 01:04:03,839 about about the documentary that you 1787 01:04:08,630 --> 01:04:06,160 guys did you know it seems like all of 1788 01:04:12,069 --> 01:04:08,640 society is looking at people like us to 1789 01:04:13,910 --> 01:04:12,079 provide proof that this stuff exists and 1790 01:04:16,789 --> 01:04:13,920 really what we should be doing 1791 01:04:19,829 --> 01:04:16,799 is we should just be encouraging 1792 01:04:20,710 --> 01:04:19,839 uh everybody to go see it themselves you 1793 01:04:24,150 --> 01:04:20,720 know 1794 01:04:28,390 --> 01:04:27,109 exactly man exactly and i i think that's 1795 01:04:29,990 --> 01:04:28,400 what i mean 1796 01:04:32,230 --> 01:04:30,000 you know the us government decided to 1797 01:04:34,549 --> 01:04:32,240 make a panel or like a team of people 1798 01:04:37,109 --> 01:04:34,559 that investigate ufos and i'm sure they 1799 01:04:38,390 --> 01:04:37,119 don't even have one person out in sedona 1800 01:04:40,470 --> 01:04:38,400 that watches them every night you know 1801 01:04:42,630 --> 01:04:40,480 it's like so you know they go to study 1802 01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:42,640 things and they don't take the most 1803 01:04:46,789 --> 01:04:44,960 what seems to be the logical approach to 1804 01:04:50,230 --> 01:04:46,799 studying something so yeah 1805 01:04:54,870 --> 01:04:51,990 i don't know how to present this i 1806 01:04:57,349 --> 01:04:54,880 didn't know how to share this or or tell 1807 01:04:59,910 --> 01:04:57,359 people that this stuff is so it's as 1808 01:05:02,150 --> 01:04:59,920 real as the nose on your face if you go 1809 01:05:03,829 --> 01:05:02,160 to the spot to see them just like whale 1810 01:05:06,549 --> 01:05:03,839 watching if you want to see whales you 1811 01:05:08,309 --> 01:05:06,559 go whale watching right right and 1812 01:05:09,109 --> 01:05:08,319 i would tell that to people who ridicule 1813 01:05:10,309 --> 01:05:09,119 me 1814 01:05:13,990 --> 01:05:10,319 when 1815 01:05:15,270 --> 01:05:14,000 trying to go on dates and stuff and i 1816 01:05:17,270 --> 01:05:15,280 bring up the fact that i like to go 1817 01:05:18,870 --> 01:05:17,280 watch ufos that's instant deal breaker 1818 01:05:20,230 --> 01:05:18,880 and i'm a psycho and i'm like well how's 1819 01:05:22,630 --> 01:05:20,240 it different than bird watching if you 1820 01:05:24,470 --> 01:05:22,640 like birds what's how is it i'm not 1821 01:05:26,950 --> 01:05:24,480 making it up they're there and i'm just 1822 01:05:28,950 --> 01:05:26,960 going to see them like is it 1823 01:05:31,270 --> 01:05:28,960 is it that weird i want to hopefully 1824 01:05:32,549 --> 01:05:31,280 people can normalize going to see them 1825 01:05:34,390 --> 01:05:32,559 for yourself 1826 01:05:35,589 --> 01:05:34,400 instead of being made out to such a 1827 01:05:37,349 --> 01:05:35,599 weirdo 1828 01:05:38,150 --> 01:05:37,359 that because you know they're real i 1829 01:05:39,029 --> 01:05:38,160 mean 1830 01:05:40,710 --> 01:05:39,039 yeah 1831 01:05:42,150 --> 01:05:40,720 and i tell all those people oh i'll take 1832 01:05:43,270 --> 01:05:42,160 you to see them if you don't think 1833 01:05:44,950 --> 01:05:43,280 they're real i'll just take you to see 1834 01:05:46,630 --> 01:05:44,960 them and you'll know they're real 1835 01:05:48,549 --> 01:05:46,640 nobody go 1836 01:05:51,349 --> 01:05:48,559 and a lot of that too is like dude you 1837 01:05:53,829 --> 01:05:51,359 you like that's a good place to go to 1838 01:05:55,910 --> 01:05:53,839 see stuff but yeah you don't technically 1839 01:05:57,829 --> 01:05:55,920 even have to go anywhere you can just go 1840 01:05:59,910 --> 01:05:57,839 outside right look up but but you know 1841 01:06:01,270 --> 01:05:59,920 you can't just go outside for 15 minutes 1842 01:06:03,029 --> 01:06:01,280 and be like no i didn't see anything 1843 01:06:04,789 --> 01:06:03,039 it's all [\h__\h] right you got to put 1844 01:06:07,029 --> 01:06:04,799 in the time go outside for a couple of 1845 01:06:08,950 --> 01:06:07,039 hours look up you know what i'm saying 1846 01:06:11,910 --> 01:06:08,960 it's not that hard to 1847 01:06:13,349 --> 01:06:11,920 grab apps that track satellites and and 1848 01:06:15,349 --> 01:06:13,359 airplanes and just put them on your 1849 01:06:17,829 --> 01:06:15,359 phone and just keep track of it you know 1850 01:06:19,829 --> 01:06:17,839 and yeah you'll be surprised what you 1851 01:06:22,390 --> 01:06:19,839 can see if you just go out for a couple 1852 01:06:23,910 --> 01:06:22,400 hours and look just look 1853 01:06:25,910 --> 01:06:23,920 there's got to be an analogy and well 1854 01:06:27,190 --> 01:06:25,920 first off hey damian what's up i i 1855 01:06:29,190 --> 01:06:27,200 hopped out right before you hopped in 1856 01:06:31,349 --> 01:06:29,200 what's up dude thanks for joining us man 1857 01:06:32,549 --> 01:06:31,359 uh but yeah like an analogy would be 1858 01:06:34,150 --> 01:06:32,559 like 1859 01:06:35,750 --> 01:06:34,160 yeah 1860 01:06:37,750 --> 01:06:35,760 uh 1861 01:06:38,470 --> 01:06:37,760 an analogy would be so i've got family 1862 01:06:41,190 --> 01:06:38,480 down 1863 01:06:43,910 --> 01:06:41,200 on the gulf coast and they they swore 1864 01:06:46,710 --> 01:06:43,920 like for years that when they were a kid 1865 01:06:48,950 --> 01:06:46,720 they saw a manatee swim in the gulf of 1866 01:06:50,150 --> 01:06:48,960 mexico like when they were a kid and 1867 01:06:52,069 --> 01:06:50,160 they were like i swear like it was bunch 1868 01:06:54,390 --> 01:06:52,079 of me and my friends and then there was 1869 01:06:56,309 --> 01:06:54,400 like like folklore that yeah there's 1870 01:06:58,470 --> 01:06:56,319 like a manatee or like one pot of 1871 01:07:01,430 --> 01:06:58,480 manatees but they're super rare 1872 01:07:02,870 --> 01:07:01,440 well uh after a hurricane a recent 1873 01:07:04,630 --> 01:07:02,880 hurricane i don't know which one it was 1874 01:07:07,109 --> 01:07:04,640 it was a couple years back 1875 01:07:10,309 --> 01:07:07,119 a manatee swims up into the gulf coast 1876 01:07:11,430 --> 01:07:10,319 where my my family lives uh near near 1877 01:07:12,549 --> 01:07:11,440 baytown 1878 01:07:18,950 --> 01:07:12,559 and 1879 01:07:21,109 --> 01:07:18,960 turns out like that's why like they 1880 01:07:24,309 --> 01:07:21,119 a lot of them migrate along the coast to 1881 01:07:26,630 --> 01:07:24,319 get away from these hurricanes so 1882 01:07:28,390 --> 01:07:26,640 like what was once like folklore like oh 1883 01:07:30,150 --> 01:07:28,400 there's there's a pod that lives here no 1884 01:07:31,510 --> 01:07:30,160 they live here but no it's just they're 1885 01:07:33,750 --> 01:07:31,520 getting away from the hurricane and then 1886 01:07:34,710 --> 01:07:33,760 they swim back to florida like 1887 01:07:36,390 --> 01:07:34,720 i don't know 1888 01:07:38,470 --> 01:07:36,400 i'm thinking we have some urban legend 1889 01:07:40,309 --> 01:07:38,480 that just had a logical explanation to 1890 01:07:41,910 --> 01:07:40,319 it huh yeah but so like if you really 1891 01:07:42,789 --> 01:07:41,920 want to see a manatee don't go to the 1892 01:07:44,230 --> 01:07:42,799 gulf 1893 01:07:46,870 --> 01:07:44,240 coast 1894 01:07:48,870 --> 01:07:46,880 like don't go to where they're rare 1895 01:07:49,990 --> 01:07:48,880 you gotta go where they are 1896 01:07:51,990 --> 01:07:50,000 that's right 1897 01:07:54,390 --> 01:07:52,000 yeah and to me the bradshaw ranch is 1898 01:07:56,950 --> 01:07:54,400 where the cryptids are it's where 1899 01:07:59,589 --> 01:07:56,960 there are physical 1900 01:08:01,829 --> 01:07:59,599 what we would think of as monsters 1901 01:08:03,829 --> 01:08:01,839 walking around on the ground on a 1902 01:08:06,150 --> 01:08:03,839 consistent basis 1903 01:08:08,710 --> 01:08:06,160 and 1904 01:08:11,029 --> 01:08:08,720 it there's never been a report of a 1905 01:08:12,710 --> 01:08:11,039 person or animal being hurt on the ranch 1906 01:08:14,789 --> 01:08:12,720 no mutilations none of that and that 1907 01:08:16,709 --> 01:08:14,799 gives me a lot of confidence in going 1908 01:08:19,349 --> 01:08:16,719 out there especially at night that the 1909 01:08:21,110 --> 01:08:19,359 phenomenon isn't hurting anyone 1910 01:08:22,950 --> 01:08:21,120 um you know we talk about terrestrial 1911 01:08:24,550 --> 01:08:22,960 things obviously but 1912 01:08:26,390 --> 01:08:24,560 so um 1913 01:08:28,870 --> 01:08:26,400 i think that's a big draw for me 1914 01:08:30,950 --> 01:08:28,880 personally is i i do 1915 01:08:33,189 --> 01:08:30,960 and man the first five six times i went 1916 01:08:35,269 --> 01:08:33,199 to the ranch i was just always felt 1917 01:08:37,189 --> 01:08:35,279 creeped out like it's just a weird but 1918 01:08:38,789 --> 01:08:37,199 then i started to realize like it's just 1919 01:08:40,870 --> 01:08:38,799 different like you just feel different 1920 01:08:42,709 --> 01:08:40,880 there like just get used to 1921 01:08:43,669 --> 01:08:42,719 how it feels there and now when i go 1922 01:08:46,470 --> 01:08:43,679 there 1923 01:08:47,990 --> 01:08:46,480 it's extremely comfortable feeling like 1924 01:08:50,149 --> 01:08:48,000 i could feel like i could just post up 1925 01:08:51,590 --> 01:08:50,159 and sleep in the house and i wouldn't be 1926 01:08:54,229 --> 01:08:51,600 bothered at all 1927 01:08:57,749 --> 01:08:54,239 so it is bizarre process to adjust 1928 01:09:00,149 --> 01:08:57,759 yourself to the way it feels to um be in 1929 01:09:02,309 --> 01:09:00,159 those places but like you said 1930 01:09:05,189 --> 01:09:02,319 if you want to encounter them 1931 01:09:08,709 --> 01:09:05,199 you got to go to where they are you know 1932 01:09:09,430 --> 01:09:08,719 yeah do you guys have any plans uh you 1933 01:09:10,630 --> 01:09:09,440 know 1934 01:09:12,470 --> 01:09:10,640 uh 1935 01:09:13,430 --> 01:09:12,480 we were talking about all the equipment 1936 01:09:15,590 --> 01:09:13,440 and stuff 1937 01:09:18,229 --> 01:09:15,600 uh damian do you have a mechanical 1938 01:09:19,590 --> 01:09:18,239 camera dude do y'all have any plans of 1939 01:09:21,590 --> 01:09:19,600 maybe getting something on me it's 1940 01:09:23,510 --> 01:09:21,600 called embroidered 1941 01:09:24,630 --> 01:09:23,520 like an old mechanical video camera that 1942 01:09:26,390 --> 01:09:24,640 would be cool 1943 01:09:28,309 --> 01:09:26,400 i actually do have mechanical cameras 1944 01:09:30,070 --> 01:09:28,319 because it's my job to take photos so i 1945 01:09:31,749 --> 01:09:30,080 collect vintage cameras 1946 01:09:34,630 --> 01:09:31,759 so i have real 1947 01:09:36,630 --> 01:09:34,640 real film the only thing is uh 1948 01:09:38,390 --> 01:09:36,640 told us that it doesn't seem to matter 1949 01:09:39,829 --> 01:09:38,400 whether it's a mechanical camera it 1950 01:09:41,749 --> 01:09:39,839 matter it doesn't matter if it's a ditch 1951 01:09:43,349 --> 01:09:41,759 camera or mechanical he said you get 1952 01:09:44,390 --> 01:09:43,359 different results depending on what you 1953 01:09:46,550 --> 01:09:44,400 use 1954 01:09:48,709 --> 01:09:46,560 so yeah he said you get results both 1955 01:09:51,669 --> 01:09:48,719 ways but different yeah 1956 01:09:53,590 --> 01:09:51,679 yeah i mean you could um take a 1957 01:09:54,870 --> 01:09:53,600 mechanical camera and get no results you 1958 01:09:56,310 --> 01:09:54,880 could take a cell phone and get no 1959 01:09:58,790 --> 01:09:56,320 results you could take an expensive 1960 01:10:00,070 --> 01:09:58,800 camera like i had and get the results 1961 01:10:01,669 --> 01:10:00,080 what you're trying to shoot could be 1962 01:10:03,189 --> 01:10:01,679 hiding from you the entire time you 1963 01:10:04,470 --> 01:10:03,199 could be turning the camera like this it 1964 01:10:07,030 --> 01:10:04,480 could be walking behind you and just 1965 01:10:08,870 --> 01:10:07,040 hiding so what linda bradford told me to 1966 01:10:10,390 --> 01:10:08,880 do is to go down there and just take 1967 01:10:13,189 --> 01:10:10,400 random photos 1968 01:10:14,709 --> 01:10:13,199 like surprise right just flip around a 1969 01:10:16,630 --> 01:10:14,719 minute and just take a photo behind 1970 01:10:17,669 --> 01:10:16,640 their back 1971 01:10:19,430 --> 01:10:17,679 and that's how they would get some of 1972 01:10:21,750 --> 01:10:19,440 the results because whatever was there 1973 01:10:23,750 --> 01:10:21,760 is i know you're holding a camera 1974 01:10:25,990 --> 01:10:23,760 that's what our friend 1975 01:10:27,669 --> 01:10:26,000 had suggested we do lorian was like when 1976 01:10:29,750 --> 01:10:27,679 you're out or in melinda we're like when 1977 01:10:31,510 --> 01:10:29,760 you're at bradshaw ranch just take 1978 01:10:34,149 --> 01:10:31,520 random photos 1979 01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:34,159 every every now and then and yeah 1980 01:10:37,510 --> 01:10:36,000 precisely yeah 1981 01:10:40,149 --> 01:10:37,520 but we can try our digital we'll try a 1982 01:10:41,669 --> 01:10:40,159 real camera too why not i have a uh some 1983 01:10:42,630 --> 01:10:41,679 kind of vintage thing in there that we 1984 01:10:49,110 --> 01:10:42,640 could use 1985 01:10:52,950 --> 01:10:51,270 and that special very light sensitive 1986 01:10:54,229 --> 01:10:52,960 film because he's talking about going at 1987 01:10:55,590 --> 01:10:54,239 night so 1988 01:10:57,030 --> 01:10:55,600 right right 1989 01:10:58,790 --> 01:10:57,040 i want the one with the with the hand 1990 01:11:00,709 --> 01:10:58,800 crank i don't want that one he should 1991 01:11:03,910 --> 01:11:00,719 set up a tripod and like [\h__\h] a 1992 01:11:05,669 --> 01:11:03,920 big-ass light bulb that explodes 1993 01:11:07,189 --> 01:11:05,679 lights everything up 1994 01:11:09,830 --> 01:11:07,199 did you guys ever 1995 01:11:10,790 --> 01:11:09,840 are you guys um familiar with the billy 1996 01:11:13,189 --> 01:11:10,800 meyer 1997 01:11:18,630 --> 01:11:16,070 he got all that video footage with the 1998 01:11:21,270 --> 01:11:18,640 hand crank mechanical camera 1999 01:11:23,430 --> 01:11:21,280 oh but that's all he had i mean i i i he 2000 01:11:25,270 --> 01:11:23,440 was limited i think to the technology at 2001 01:11:27,430 --> 01:11:25,280 the time and stuff but to say a guy with 2002 01:11:29,669 --> 01:11:27,440 one arm faked those videos while he was 2003 01:11:31,910 --> 01:11:29,679 cranking the cameras a little crazy 2004 01:11:33,350 --> 01:11:31,920 no way did you really only have one arm 2005 01:11:35,830 --> 01:11:33,360 yeah oh yeah yeah 2006 01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:35,840 he was when he was a younger guy he was 2007 01:11:39,430 --> 01:11:37,760 on a bus and he fell asleep with his arm 2008 01:11:41,990 --> 01:11:39,440 out the window and there was a crash and 2009 01:11:43,750 --> 01:11:42,000 that's how he lost his arm yeah 2010 01:11:45,510 --> 01:11:43,760 and then he was like ready to die he was 2011 01:11:47,510 --> 01:11:45,520 just wandering around the towns in the 2012 01:11:49,030 --> 01:11:47,520 middle east like pale and then somebody 2013 01:11:51,030 --> 01:11:49,040 recognized him because he used to be a 2014 01:11:53,110 --> 01:11:51,040 real badass and kind of helped him get 2015 01:11:53,750 --> 01:11:53,120 back on his feet a 2016 01:11:55,910 --> 01:11:53,760 my bit 2017 01:11:57,030 --> 01:11:55,920 billy had the craziest life command of 2018 01:11:58,229 --> 01:11:57,040 that guy 2019 01:11:59,830 --> 01:11:58,239 crazy 2020 01:12:01,910 --> 01:11:59,840 damn 2021 01:12:03,830 --> 01:12:01,920 that is pretty wild 2022 01:12:06,390 --> 01:12:03,840 yeah and his videos you know his videos 2023 01:12:09,990 --> 01:12:06,400 have been analyzed by kodak and all 2024 01:12:11,990 --> 01:12:10,000 these people and it's always comes out 2025 01:12:13,830 --> 01:12:12,000 to be genuine always 2026 01:12:16,149 --> 01:12:13,840 they've looked at whether or not those 2027 01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:16,159 ships were made out of models and they 2028 01:12:20,390 --> 01:12:18,719 proved the size of these ships are 40 2029 01:12:22,790 --> 01:12:20,400 feet across they're not miniatures i 2030 01:12:24,390 --> 01:12:22,800 mean they made miniatures and shot 2031 01:12:26,229 --> 01:12:24,400 photos to be similar so they could 2032 01:12:27,990 --> 01:12:26,239 compare what they look like and then 2033 01:12:29,590 --> 01:12:28,000 people take the photos 2034 01:12:31,590 --> 01:12:29,600 of the miniature they made and be like 2035 01:12:33,110 --> 01:12:31,600 oh look it's a fake thing no that's the 2036 01:12:35,830 --> 01:12:33,120 miniature they made to compare to the 2037 01:12:38,070 --> 01:12:35,840 real photo so there's a lot of nonsense 2038 01:12:40,870 --> 01:12:38,080 people spew about billy but 2039 01:12:44,630 --> 01:12:40,880 i mean he captured just what thousands 2040 01:12:47,750 --> 01:12:44,640 of pictures and video of the 2041 01:12:49,350 --> 01:12:47,760 palladian and the pljaron he called them 2042 01:12:50,470 --> 01:12:49,360 you gotta be careful when you google 2043 01:12:52,070 --> 01:12:50,480 some of this stuff because some of these 2044 01:12:53,910 --> 01:12:52,080 are like recreations that are not 2045 01:12:56,470 --> 01:12:53,920 exactly like that and 2046 01:12:59,750 --> 01:12:56,480 the government has spent so much money 2047 01:13:02,630 --> 01:12:59,760 trying to make billy look like a fraud 2048 01:13:04,709 --> 01:13:02,640 uh even when he was active i 2049 01:13:06,550 --> 01:13:04,719 i found out from john lear that what the 2050 01:13:09,270 --> 01:13:06,560 government was doing was 2051 01:13:11,750 --> 01:13:09,280 they found out where billy was getting 2052 01:13:14,390 --> 01:13:11,760 his photographs developed 2053 01:13:16,390 --> 01:13:14,400 and the government was going and putting 2054 01:13:18,790 --> 01:13:16,400 fakes in with his 2055 01:13:21,270 --> 01:13:18,800 real pictures at the development place 2056 01:13:22,950 --> 01:13:21,280 so that when he got them back 2057 01:13:24,229 --> 01:13:22,960 he would come out with pictures he 2058 01:13:25,990 --> 01:13:24,239 thought he took and there were one or 2059 01:13:27,350 --> 01:13:26,000 two fakes in there 2060 01:13:29,189 --> 01:13:27,360 which you know when you get when he got 2061 01:13:31,270 --> 01:13:29,199 a pack of photos it didn't register that 2062 01:13:32,950 --> 01:13:31,280 that one wasn't what he took 2063 01:13:35,110 --> 01:13:32,960 right and so then people would call him 2064 01:13:36,870 --> 01:13:35,120 out look this is a picture that's known 2065 01:13:38,229 --> 01:13:36,880 to be fake because here's the original 2066 01:13:39,750 --> 01:13:38,239 and it's like 2067 01:13:41,669 --> 01:13:39,760 that's great you did that math really 2068 01:13:43,510 --> 01:13:41,679 quick to come up with all you you found 2069 01:13:45,350 --> 01:13:43,520 like the there's a photo of two women 2070 01:13:46,709 --> 01:13:45,360 and he says they were playard and turns 2071 01:13:48,070 --> 01:13:46,719 out they're from the dean martin show or 2072 01:13:49,430 --> 01:13:48,080 something but that was just one of the 2073 01:13:51,350 --> 01:13:49,440 ones that 2074 01:13:54,390 --> 01:13:51,360 was uh put in with his and one of the 2075 01:13:57,030 --> 01:13:54,400 dinosaur pictures and stuff like that 2076 01:13:59,830 --> 01:13:57,040 you know it's all like the the bad apple 2077 01:14:01,669 --> 01:13:59,840 ruins the bunch you know yeah like man 2078 01:14:03,990 --> 01:14:01,679 you could have like all the evidence in 2079 01:14:06,149 --> 01:14:04,000 in the world and that one and that's the 2080 01:14:07,110 --> 01:14:06,159 funny thing about billy so okay if he's 2081 01:14:08,229 --> 01:14:07,120 fake 2082 01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:08,239 that means 2083 01:14:14,229 --> 01:14:11,920 he's the world's best at 2084 01:14:15,669 --> 01:14:14,239 filming faking videos he's the world's 2085 01:14:18,149 --> 01:14:15,679 best at 2086 01:14:20,550 --> 01:14:18,159 fake computer not even computer graphics 2087 01:14:22,390 --> 01:14:20,560 real actual trickery he's the best in 2088 01:14:23,750 --> 01:14:22,400 the world at faking photos because they 2089 01:14:24,790 --> 01:14:23,760 were passed as 2090 01:14:26,390 --> 01:14:24,800 genuine 2091 01:14:29,350 --> 01:14:26,400 metallurgy because he's come up with 2092 01:14:31,189 --> 01:14:29,360 metal samples um other types of 2093 01:14:34,870 --> 01:14:31,199 vegetation and fruit he's come up like 2094 01:14:36,709 --> 01:14:34,880 he has to be the world's best hoaxer 2095 01:14:38,790 --> 01:14:36,719 to have pulled off the stuff he does and 2096 01:14:41,030 --> 01:14:38,800 he's this one armed quiet man who lives 2097 01:14:43,110 --> 01:14:41,040 in the mountains in switzerland so 2098 01:14:44,310 --> 01:14:43,120 it doesn't really add up that he faked 2099 01:14:46,790 --> 01:14:44,320 it all right 2100 01:14:48,470 --> 01:14:46,800 the sound the audio recording the ufos 2101 01:14:49,990 --> 01:14:48,480 like he had to have faked all that audio 2102 01:14:52,310 --> 01:14:50,000 too he would have to be in a brilliant 2103 01:14:55,430 --> 01:14:52,320 audio engineer to do all like it doesn't 2104 01:14:57,430 --> 01:14:55,830 yeah damn 2105 01:14:58,709 --> 01:14:57,440 was no photoshop there as well people 2106 01:15:00,470 --> 01:14:58,719 don't probably don't understand today 2107 01:15:02,550 --> 01:15:00,480 but you know then there was no way 2108 01:15:04,709 --> 01:15:02,560 really 2109 01:15:07,030 --> 01:15:04,719 yeah they tried to say things like 2110 01:15:09,189 --> 01:15:07,040 he was hanging the ufo from a string on 2111 01:15:10,950 --> 01:15:09,199 a on a branch that you couldn't see off 2112 01:15:12,870 --> 01:15:10,960 the camera and stuff so billy would go 2113 01:15:14,470 --> 01:15:12,880 out and take pictures that show mostly 2114 01:15:16,070 --> 01:15:14,480 the whole sky and his next group of 2115 01:15:17,990 --> 01:15:16,080 pictures and stuff like that to show 2116 01:15:22,630 --> 01:15:18,000 people like there's not there's no 2117 01:15:27,669 --> 01:15:24,870 it was 30 years he did that 2118 01:15:29,270 --> 01:15:27,679 it would be so cool to like 2119 01:15:32,149 --> 01:15:29,280 and i'm sure there's somebody out there 2120 01:15:33,910 --> 01:15:32,159 but it'd be so cool to for somebody to 2121 01:15:35,430 --> 01:15:33,920 come forward and be like 2122 01:15:37,350 --> 01:15:35,440 hey i've been taking pictures of [\h__\h] 2123 01:15:40,229 --> 01:15:37,360 right behind the tree too you know 2124 01:15:41,430 --> 01:15:40,239 that's 40 foot long you know uh 2125 01:15:43,110 --> 01:15:41,440 yeah but why don't they do it because 2126 01:15:44,390 --> 01:15:43,120 it's going to ruin their life you know 2127 01:15:46,390 --> 01:15:44,400 it's gonna 2128 01:15:49,030 --> 01:15:46,400 you know they'll look at as a crazy 2129 01:15:50,790 --> 01:15:49,040 person and they can't you know they get 2130 01:15:52,630 --> 01:15:50,800 made fun of at work and by their family 2131 01:15:53,910 --> 01:15:52,640 and it's not safe to do that 2132 01:15:56,390 --> 01:15:53,920 unfortunately 2133 01:15:59,110 --> 01:15:56,400 yeah i mean the closest thing that we 2134 01:16:01,510 --> 01:15:59,120 have is is you know a photo from our 2135 01:16:02,310 --> 01:16:01,520 buddy who lived in a one-story 2136 01:16:04,790 --> 01:16:02,320 uh 2137 01:16:07,430 --> 01:16:04,800 apartment building and and there is a 2138 01:16:08,630 --> 01:16:07,440 massive light that's literally like 40 2139 01:16:11,350 --> 01:16:08,640 foot above 2140 01:16:13,270 --> 01:16:11,360 the world and it's it's massive 2141 01:16:15,270 --> 01:16:13,280 and like you know what 2142 01:16:16,470 --> 01:16:15,280 what state was that in 2143 01:16:19,830 --> 01:16:16,480 arkansas 2144 01:16:22,550 --> 01:16:19,840 oh really yeah yeah that hot springs 2145 01:16:25,510 --> 01:16:22,560 area apparently there's a massive quartz 2146 01:16:26,470 --> 01:16:25,520 deposit that runs under that little area 2147 01:16:28,790 --> 01:16:26,480 as well 2148 01:16:32,149 --> 01:16:28,800 so like you're saying in the movie you 2149 01:16:33,510 --> 01:16:32,159 mix that with some running water and and 2150 01:16:35,110 --> 01:16:33,520 you know yeah yeah i don't know if 2151 01:16:36,709 --> 01:16:35,120 there's like iron up there but maybe 2152 01:16:38,630 --> 01:16:36,719 there's another type of metal up in 2153 01:16:41,350 --> 01:16:38,640 those mountains that you know 2154 01:16:42,870 --> 01:16:41,360 can generate that but yeah that uh that 2155 01:16:44,870 --> 01:16:42,880 piezoelectric 2156 01:16:46,630 --> 01:16:44,880 thing is is pretty is is pretty 2157 01:16:48,470 --> 01:16:46,640 interesting you know when you when 2158 01:16:49,990 --> 01:16:48,480 you're talking 2159 01:16:52,630 --> 01:16:50,000 i didn't know that word until science 2160 01:16:53,350 --> 01:16:52,640 mom taught me that yeah the compression 2161 01:16:56,070 --> 01:16:53,360 of 2162 01:16:58,070 --> 01:16:56,080 crystals yeah it's it's it's it's very 2163 01:16:59,430 --> 01:16:58,080 interesting man that stuff is really 2164 01:17:01,030 --> 01:16:59,440 really cool 2165 01:17:03,669 --> 01:17:01,040 so you got to think if there's this 2166 01:17:06,790 --> 01:17:03,679 gigantic three mile long 2167 01:17:09,990 --> 01:17:06,800 vein of quartz crystal under the earth 2168 01:17:12,550 --> 01:17:10,000 under sedona that crystal is constantly 2169 01:17:16,390 --> 01:17:12,560 under pressure from the earth material 2170 01:17:19,350 --> 01:17:16,400 above it so it is constantly giving off 2171 01:17:22,070 --> 01:17:19,360 that type of energy i mean that 2172 01:17:24,229 --> 01:17:22,080 that to me is probably a good idea why 2173 01:17:25,590 --> 01:17:24,239 the phenomenon's so strong there 2174 01:17:27,189 --> 01:17:25,600 like you said maybe that phenomenon 2175 01:17:29,270 --> 01:17:27,199 needs to pull from an energy source to 2176 01:17:30,790 --> 01:17:29,280 manifest and maybe that piezoelectric 2177 01:17:33,110 --> 01:17:30,800 energy is the 2178 01:17:34,950 --> 01:17:33,120 energy source it's using to manifest on 2179 01:17:36,790 --> 01:17:34,960 the ranch there you know yeah it's 2180 01:17:38,870 --> 01:17:36,800 always funny because people you know say 2181 01:17:40,950 --> 01:17:38,880 like oh i saw something really strange 2182 01:17:42,470 --> 01:17:40,960 it was during like a thunderstorm you 2183 01:17:44,390 --> 01:17:42,480 know these things pop right there's a 2184 01:17:46,470 --> 01:17:44,400 lot of lightning in the atmosphere or 2185 01:17:48,470 --> 01:17:46,480 like on the middle of the ocean where 2186 01:17:51,110 --> 01:17:48,480 the navy's hanging out you know there's 2187 01:17:53,510 --> 01:17:51,120 all kinds of storms happening and then 2188 01:17:54,790 --> 01:17:53,520 when there is no storms you know they go 2189 01:17:57,669 --> 01:17:54,800 to these highly 2190 01:17:59,830 --> 01:17:57,679 electromagnetic spaces on the planet 2191 01:18:02,070 --> 01:17:59,840 right and who knows what they're doing 2192 01:18:05,030 --> 01:18:02,080 you know who knows but you know it that 2193 01:18:06,310 --> 01:18:05,040 seems to be a common a common theme with 2194 01:18:07,270 --> 01:18:06,320 this stuff 2195 01:18:08,950 --> 01:18:07,280 that 2196 01:18:11,430 --> 01:18:08,960 there's always some sort of energy or 2197 01:18:13,030 --> 01:18:11,440 electricity behind it which is pretty 2198 01:18:15,590 --> 01:18:13,040 interesting 2199 01:18:18,149 --> 01:18:15,600 so i i came across this video today uh 2200 01:18:20,310 --> 01:18:18,159 someone was explaining why when you bite 2201 01:18:22,070 --> 01:18:20,320 into a wintergreen mint one of the white 2202 01:18:24,709 --> 01:18:22,080 ones 2203 01:18:26,350 --> 01:18:24,719 and it sparks like why that happens is 2204 01:18:27,910 --> 01:18:26,360 it's called a 2205 01:18:30,229 --> 01:18:27,920 triboluminescence 2206 01:18:32,070 --> 01:18:30,239 and uh it happens when crystals such as 2207 01:18:32,870 --> 01:18:32,080 like sugar crystals 2208 01:18:35,350 --> 01:18:32,880 uh 2209 01:18:36,709 --> 01:18:35,360 yeah are under pressure or snap those 2210 01:18:38,310 --> 01:18:36,719 electrons 2211 01:18:39,189 --> 01:18:38,320 uh separate 2212 01:18:40,950 --> 01:18:39,199 and 2213 01:18:43,830 --> 01:18:40,960 the lightning or the energy that that's 2214 01:18:46,149 --> 01:18:43,840 created isn't visibly seen unless it's 2215 01:18:47,590 --> 01:18:46,159 uh surrounded in a gas 2216 01:18:51,189 --> 01:18:47,600 and that gas 2217 01:18:53,590 --> 01:18:51,199 uh is created by wintergreen like the 2218 01:18:56,149 --> 01:18:53,600 like the plant so that's why you can see 2219 01:18:57,990 --> 01:18:56,159 it you can visibly see it crazy yeah and 2220 01:19:00,229 --> 01:18:58,000 then nuts 2221 01:19:01,590 --> 01:19:00,239 just show that show this video of of 2222 01:19:03,510 --> 01:19:01,600 them being like crushed under a 2223 01:19:04,790 --> 01:19:03,520 hydraulic press i haven't seen this 2224 01:19:06,709 --> 01:19:04,800 before and i'm not 2225 01:19:08,470 --> 01:19:06,719 actually seeing any light now i mean if 2226 01:19:10,790 --> 01:19:08,480 biting into one is good crushing a 2227 01:19:12,790 --> 01:19:10,800 hundred and a press must be better 2228 01:19:15,590 --> 01:19:12,800 right you would think oh that's pretty 2229 01:19:16,709 --> 01:19:15,600 interesting yeah that little blue light 2230 01:19:19,189 --> 01:19:16,719 huh 2231 01:19:21,510 --> 01:19:19,199 i have seen the um bioluminescence in 2232 01:19:23,110 --> 01:19:21,520 the ocean before out here in long beach 2233 01:19:24,550 --> 01:19:23,120 where all the waves crash and it turns 2234 01:19:25,350 --> 01:19:24,560 blue from the algae that looks really 2235 01:19:28,390 --> 01:19:25,360 cool 2236 01:19:29,830 --> 01:19:28,400 something out of avatar or something 2237 01:19:32,790 --> 01:19:29,840 that looks wild man 2238 01:19:34,950 --> 01:19:32,800 yes dude that is pretty wild 2239 01:19:37,350 --> 01:19:34,960 have you ever seen uh the or heard about 2240 01:19:38,790 --> 01:19:37,360 the marvel lights 2241 01:19:40,870 --> 01:19:38,800 no 2242 01:19:43,030 --> 01:19:40,880 oh dude that's a pretty interesting 2243 01:19:44,070 --> 01:19:43,040 place out here marfa texas out in west 2244 01:19:45,430 --> 01:19:44,080 texas 2245 01:19:46,550 --> 01:19:45,440 oh i have heard of those lights they're 2246 01:19:48,550 --> 01:19:46,560 kind of like spook lights right they 2247 01:19:50,790 --> 01:19:48,560 come out on the horizon there 2248 01:19:52,550 --> 01:19:50,800 yeah all the time yes i haven't i have 2249 01:19:55,750 --> 01:19:52,560 heard about them and really reliably 2250 01:19:58,070 --> 01:19:55,760 from what i understood they put up a 2251 01:19:59,830 --> 01:19:58,080 parking lot like 20 miles away from it 2252 01:20:02,070 --> 01:19:59,840 and you just you just you can just go 2253 01:20:03,350 --> 01:20:02,080 out there and watch them it's and nobody 2254 01:20:08,149 --> 01:20:03,360 knows what they are 2255 01:20:10,070 --> 01:20:08,159 parking lot joe's talking about there's 2256 01:20:13,189 --> 01:20:10,080 like a viewing area with like the 2257 01:20:15,750 --> 01:20:13,199 binoculars and stuff and dude 2258 01:20:18,149 --> 01:20:15,760 how crazy that a phenomenon that strange 2259 01:20:20,470 --> 01:20:18,159 is so regular that they made a parking 2260 01:20:22,629 --> 01:20:20,480 lot and installed viewfinder so that's 2261 01:20:23,910 --> 01:20:22,639 amazing yeah you just go out there and 2262 01:20:25,750 --> 01:20:23,920 watch them like yeah we're gonna go see 2263 01:20:27,590 --> 01:20:25,760 the marvel lights tonight dependably 2264 01:20:29,510 --> 01:20:27,600 like it's it's like it's like an old 2265 01:20:31,590 --> 01:20:29,520 faithful type of phenomenon dude like 2266 01:20:33,990 --> 01:20:31,600 you may just see like one or two that 2267 01:20:35,590 --> 01:20:34,000 night but then you may also see like 20 2268 01:20:37,350 --> 01:20:35,600 that night like it's just crazy and 2269 01:20:39,110 --> 01:20:37,360 they're just they're just floating 2270 01:20:41,189 --> 01:20:39,120 around the around the hill and people 2271 01:20:44,149 --> 01:20:41,199 are like oh those are cars or lanterns 2272 01:20:46,629 --> 01:20:44,159 there's little balls of gas balls of gas 2273 01:20:49,430 --> 01:20:46,639 it's just like dudes dude 2274 01:20:51,990 --> 01:20:49,440 the uh the scariest thing i heard come 2275 01:20:55,110 --> 01:20:52,000 out of texas was from like the late 70s 2276 01:20:56,709 --> 01:20:55,120 and a few reports of a bat 2277 01:21:00,390 --> 01:20:56,719 squatch 2278 01:21:02,470 --> 01:21:00,400 batwing you guys need to look that up 2279 01:21:04,070 --> 01:21:02,480 because i think it was late 70s near 2280 01:21:06,950 --> 01:21:04,080 houston texas 2281 01:21:08,470 --> 01:21:06,960 and look up the bat squatch that sounded 2282 01:21:11,030 --> 01:21:08,480 terrifying to me 2283 01:21:14,470 --> 01:21:11,040 i'm not afraid of any cryptos but a bat 2284 01:21:16,070 --> 01:21:14,480 squatch i would you guys be 2285 01:21:18,310 --> 01:21:16,080 it's bad enough it's probably already 2286 01:21:20,950 --> 01:21:18,320 faster than you but now i can fly too 2287 01:21:22,709 --> 01:21:20,960 right right exactly yeah 2288 01:21:25,669 --> 01:21:22,719 and it sounded like the encounters were 2289 01:21:28,629 --> 01:21:25,679 kind of terrifying like um so tom i was 2290 01:21:31,270 --> 01:21:28,639 talking to tom dongo about what to be 2291 01:21:33,510 --> 01:21:31,280 wary of and he told me i don't need to 2292 01:21:35,510 --> 01:21:33,520 be afraid of the ranch but he told me i 2293 01:21:38,470 --> 01:21:35,520 should always be afraid if i ever run 2294 01:21:41,350 --> 01:21:38,480 into a dog man creature 2295 01:21:43,270 --> 01:21:41,360 some stories of dog men that they they 2296 01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:43,280 go after you like 2297 01:21:46,310 --> 01:21:45,040 one story he told me 2298 01:21:47,990 --> 01:21:46,320 that he heard 2299 01:21:49,110 --> 01:21:48,000 right directly from the person that it 2300 01:21:51,030 --> 01:21:49,120 happened to 2301 01:21:52,550 --> 01:21:51,040 they went out to this place to this lake 2302 01:21:53,910 --> 01:21:52,560 where they had heard their bigfoots and 2303 01:21:55,430 --> 01:21:53,920 stuff and they were on 2304 01:21:57,030 --> 01:21:55,440 they parked their car and then walked 2305 01:21:58,229 --> 01:21:57,040 around the shore of the lake 2306 01:21:59,750 --> 01:21:58,239 and then they were on shore lake and 2307 01:22:01,270 --> 01:21:59,760 they heard something across the water 2308 01:22:04,310 --> 01:22:01,280 and they were looking and there was this 2309 01:22:05,510 --> 01:22:04,320 giant werewolf dog man on the other side 2310 01:22:07,669 --> 01:22:05,520 of the shore 2311 01:22:09,990 --> 01:22:07,679 and these people started getting [\h__\h] 2312 01:22:11,350 --> 01:22:10,000 terrified so they started sprinting back 2313 01:22:13,910 --> 01:22:11,360 to their car 2314 01:22:16,550 --> 01:22:13,920 and they looked across the water 2315 01:22:18,070 --> 01:22:16,560 and the dog man was sprinting to their 2316 01:22:19,830 --> 01:22:18,080 car as well 2317 01:22:21,910 --> 01:22:19,840 i can't imagine how scary that was look 2318 01:22:25,270 --> 01:22:21,920 at it right can i get a ride guys guys 2319 01:22:27,830 --> 01:22:25,280 this thing picked up a rock a good-sized 2320 01:22:28,950 --> 01:22:27,840 rock and as they they somehow beat it to 2321 01:22:31,110 --> 01:22:28,960 the car right when they got in this 2322 01:22:33,350 --> 01:22:31,120 thing threw the rock and smashed in the 2323 01:22:35,590 --> 01:22:33,360 front of this guy's car with the rock oh 2324 01:22:39,270 --> 01:22:35,600 [\h__\h] i've never heard of bigfoot's or 2325 01:22:41,510 --> 01:22:39,280 any other creature doing that ever 2326 01:22:43,030 --> 01:22:41,520 and then so tom told me if you see if 2327 01:22:45,830 --> 01:22:43,040 there's anything to do with the dog man 2328 01:22:49,910 --> 01:22:45,840 don't go and then he also said 2329 01:22:51,910 --> 01:22:49,920 be wary of inherent evil 2330 01:22:53,990 --> 01:22:51,920 which is kind of a broad statement but i 2331 01:22:57,030 --> 01:22:54,000 also know exactly what he means when he 2332 01:23:00,149 --> 01:22:57,040 says it too and his his only place 2333 01:23:02,229 --> 01:23:00,159 near sedona that he told me that is is 2334 01:23:04,870 --> 01:23:02,239 in sycamore canyon 2335 01:23:06,950 --> 01:23:04,880 um he told me 2336 01:23:10,310 --> 01:23:06,960 don't go to sycamore canyon alone 2337 01:23:11,110 --> 01:23:10,320 anytime and do not go at night at all 2338 01:23:12,070 --> 01:23:11,120 and 2339 01:23:13,910 --> 01:23:12,080 um 2340 01:23:15,750 --> 01:23:13,920 you know so naturally the next 2341 01:23:17,189 --> 01:23:15,760 very next morning me and my two friends 2342 01:23:19,030 --> 01:23:17,199 got a jeep and went out to stick more 2343 01:23:20,070 --> 01:23:19,040 canyon 2344 01:23:22,629 --> 01:23:20,080 but it's 2345 01:23:24,550 --> 01:23:22,639 it's a really big it's a really big can 2346 01:23:26,790 --> 01:23:24,560 it's like 25 miles or something like 2347 01:23:28,310 --> 01:23:26,800 that but i started asking tom why oh my 2348 01:23:29,189 --> 01:23:28,320 god you can't tell me that and tell me 2349 01:23:30,229 --> 01:23:29,199 you know 2350 01:23:31,750 --> 01:23:30,239 yeah 2351 01:23:34,709 --> 01:23:31,760 so he said he was out there during the 2352 01:23:35,830 --> 01:23:34,719 day with five or six other people and 2353 01:23:37,590 --> 01:23:35,840 they saw 2354 01:23:39,510 --> 01:23:37,600 a pterodactyl 2355 01:23:42,950 --> 01:23:39,520 flying in the sky 2356 01:23:45,110 --> 01:23:42,960 for minutes on end they watched 2357 01:23:47,750 --> 01:23:45,120 a pterodactyl flying through the sky in 2358 01:23:49,430 --> 01:23:47,760 sycamore canyon wow and so that's my 2359 01:23:51,189 --> 01:23:49,440 motivation if there's things like that 2360 01:23:52,550 --> 01:23:51,199 flying i mean i'll make some trips out 2361 01:23:54,550 --> 01:23:52,560 there during the day but it's going to 2362 01:23:56,470 --> 01:23:54,560 be hard to find 2363 01:23:58,070 --> 01:23:56,480 where that happens in such a big area in 2364 01:24:00,790 --> 01:23:58,080 that canyon but 2365 01:24:04,070 --> 01:24:00,800 there's been reports of 2366 01:24:05,830 --> 01:24:04,080 people getting hurt there at night um 2367 01:24:07,189 --> 01:24:05,840 unconfirmed but the reports were 2368 01:24:09,510 --> 01:24:07,199 terrifying enough that people were 2369 01:24:12,229 --> 01:24:09,520 getting really badly hurt and 2370 01:24:14,470 --> 01:24:12,239 uh so yeah that's a trip 2371 01:24:15,910 --> 01:24:14,480 yeah i try to i try to be wary of my 2372 01:24:17,910 --> 01:24:15,920 elders and what they tell me to stay 2373 01:24:19,669 --> 01:24:17,920 away from especially guys like tom and 2374 01:24:21,110 --> 01:24:19,679 guys like cliff mahouty who i you know i 2375 01:24:23,030 --> 01:24:21,120 only got a chance to meet cliff last 2376 01:24:24,470 --> 01:24:23,040 november damien was there we got to sit 2377 01:24:26,310 --> 01:24:24,480 down and have dinner with him for our 2378 01:24:28,470 --> 01:24:26,320 breakfast with him for a couple hours 2379 01:24:30,149 --> 01:24:28,480 and he talked a lot which tom dongle 2380 01:24:32,709 --> 01:24:30,159 told us cliff doesn't really talk much 2381 01:24:34,470 --> 01:24:32,719 so he he must have taken as well but 2382 01:24:36,070 --> 01:24:34,480 it was 2383 01:24:37,990 --> 01:24:36,080 damien and i left that breakfast went 2384 01:24:40,229 --> 01:24:38,000 back to camp and we both had to take a 2385 01:24:42,790 --> 01:24:40,239 nap because like the knowledge dropped 2386 01:24:45,510 --> 01:24:42,800 from this guy was just like overwhelming 2387 01:24:47,030 --> 01:24:45,520 like we're both just like oh god before 2388 01:24:49,030 --> 01:24:47,040 yeah yeah yeah when you're like oh you 2389 01:24:50,950 --> 01:24:49,040 see everything in a different way now oh 2390 01:24:53,830 --> 01:24:50,960 my god i just had my world wrecked by 2391 01:24:55,590 --> 01:24:53,840 this old man and it's just 2392 01:24:57,030 --> 01:24:55,600 i i feel really blessed that we got to 2393 01:24:59,910 --> 01:24:57,040 meet him and it's so sad that he passed 2394 01:25:01,910 --> 01:24:59,920 away shortly afterward but i even you 2395 01:25:02,950 --> 01:25:01,920 know his meanings of petroglyphs that he 2396 01:25:04,149 --> 01:25:02,960 gave me 2397 01:25:05,910 --> 01:25:04,159 there were some 2398 01:25:07,669 --> 01:25:05,920 one in particular petroglyph that i 2399 01:25:09,110 --> 01:25:07,679 could not find a meaning for and he knew 2400 01:25:10,950 --> 01:25:09,120 exactly what it was 2401 01:25:13,430 --> 01:25:10,960 so there were little bits like that that 2402 01:25:15,430 --> 01:25:13,440 you know i'll never be able to thank the 2403 01:25:16,870 --> 01:25:15,440 guy for i don't think but 2404 01:25:18,629 --> 01:25:16,880 um 2405 01:25:20,790 --> 01:25:18,639 getting out and about really does put 2406 01:25:23,189 --> 01:25:20,800 you in spots to learn more than sitting 2407 01:25:25,270 --> 01:25:23,199 on the computer i guess oh for sure for 2408 01:25:28,070 --> 01:25:25,280 sure yeah so never would have met you 2409 01:25:30,550 --> 01:25:28,080 guys that's right dude right 2410 01:25:32,629 --> 01:25:30,560 so damian dude before before you you 2411 01:25:34,550 --> 01:25:32,639 know you hooked up 2412 01:25:36,470 --> 01:25:34,560 with uh with 2413 01:25:39,510 --> 01:25:36,480 all and y'all started filming this 2414 01:25:42,070 --> 01:25:39,520 documentary did have you ever had any 2415 01:25:44,709 --> 01:25:42,080 weird experiences like whether it be 2416 01:25:48,149 --> 01:25:44,719 like ghosts or seeing lights in the sky 2417 01:25:51,270 --> 01:25:49,990 yeah uh yes 2418 01:25:52,629 --> 01:25:51,280 let me just step into the other room 2419 01:26:03,669 --> 01:25:52,639 because my daughter's in here i don't 2420 01:26:09,270 --> 01:26:06,790 i was reading a book in bed about 2421 01:26:12,870 --> 01:26:09,280 15 years ago maybe more maybe more 2422 01:26:14,390 --> 01:26:12,880 and i was i saw something float across 2423 01:26:16,709 --> 01:26:14,400 the room 2424 01:26:19,430 --> 01:26:16,719 and i was i wondered what it was and i 2425 01:26:22,550 --> 01:26:19,440 it was like a like about four inches 2426 01:26:24,709 --> 01:26:22,560 wide about four feet tall and then it 2427 01:26:26,629 --> 01:26:24,719 was just like a wisp that floated across 2428 01:26:28,470 --> 01:26:26,639 the end of the bed 2429 01:26:29,270 --> 01:26:28,480 wow and uh 2430 01:26:32,870 --> 01:26:29,280 i 2431 01:26:35,590 --> 01:26:32,880 uh 2432 01:26:37,910 --> 01:26:35,600 how um 2433 01:26:39,510 --> 01:26:37,920 if you on a hot day and it's wavy or you 2434 01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:39,520 get a flame and you look above the flame 2435 01:26:43,830 --> 01:26:41,840 and it's like it distorts the air right 2436 01:26:45,430 --> 01:26:43,840 like a mirage where this thing was it 2437 01:26:46,709 --> 01:26:45,440 distorted the air as it moved through 2438 01:26:48,870 --> 01:26:46,719 our house 2439 01:26:51,030 --> 01:26:48,880 across the end of our bed 2440 01:26:52,790 --> 01:26:51,040 and i saw it and the cat saw it and i 2441 01:26:54,470 --> 01:26:52,800 said to my girlfriend who was in there 2442 01:26:55,910 --> 01:26:54,480 both reading books right 2443 01:26:57,430 --> 01:26:55,920 and i said did you see what that did you 2444 01:26:59,750 --> 01:26:57,440 see that thing 2445 01:27:01,270 --> 01:26:59,760 and then she goes no i didn't see it i 2446 01:27:02,629 --> 01:27:01,280 didn't see it but 2447 01:27:06,149 --> 01:27:02,639 you and the cat both saw it because you 2448 01:27:09,590 --> 01:27:07,830 so i got a theory about all that i don't 2449 01:27:11,910 --> 01:27:09,600 think any of that stuff is ghosts i i 2450 01:27:13,510 --> 01:27:11,920 honestly offer that experience 2451 01:27:15,830 --> 01:27:13,520 of my entire life 2452 01:27:18,070 --> 01:27:15,840 that's something cloaking 2453 01:27:19,510 --> 01:27:18,080 it was in our house and i just happened 2454 01:27:20,870 --> 01:27:19,520 to 2455 01:27:22,870 --> 01:27:20,880 capture it i was just in that state of 2456 01:27:24,870 --> 01:27:22,880 mind i guess and i was i just i have a 2457 01:27:27,110 --> 01:27:24,880 good eye so yeah what the hell was that 2458 01:27:29,910 --> 01:27:27,120 thing walking through the room 2459 01:27:33,510 --> 01:27:29,920 and the second time i was driving a car 2460 01:27:35,350 --> 01:27:33,520 from las vegas to um 2461 01:27:38,149 --> 01:27:35,360 uh from parum to las vegas from 2462 01:27:39,750 --> 01:27:38,159 california and as i drove the vehicle i 2463 01:27:41,669 --> 01:27:39,760 looked up in the sky and i saw a very 2464 01:27:44,229 --> 01:27:41,679 very bright star and it came down from 2465 01:27:46,870 --> 01:27:44,239 this its position in the sky and then 2466 01:27:48,950 --> 01:27:46,880 hovered over our car in front of us 2467 01:27:51,430 --> 01:27:48,960 for a couple of minutes and then it 2468 01:27:53,350 --> 01:27:51,440 flew off behind an airplane 2469 01:27:55,270 --> 01:27:53,360 followed it and then disappeared over 2470 01:27:57,189 --> 01:27:55,280 the mountains and i was with i had a 2471 01:27:59,189 --> 01:27:57,199 witness with me and we both saw it and 2472 01:28:01,110 --> 01:27:59,199 whenever i see a 2473 01:28:03,910 --> 01:28:01,120 video that looks like this orb that we 2474 01:28:05,350 --> 01:28:03,920 saw i always um 2475 01:28:07,430 --> 01:28:05,360 forward it to this girl that lives in 2476 01:28:09,110 --> 01:28:07,440 sweden now yeah and i always say to her 2477 01:28:11,510 --> 01:28:09,120 remember that thing we saw look just 2478 01:28:13,350 --> 01:28:11,520 like this thing what was that but you 2479 01:28:15,430 --> 01:28:13,360 know when i saw that thing i was so glad 2480 01:28:17,910 --> 01:28:15,440 because i had always researched all this 2481 01:28:21,270 --> 01:28:17,920 i spent like hours and hours and hours 2482 01:28:23,590 --> 01:28:21,280 looking up ufo videos and i'd never 2483 01:28:25,350 --> 01:28:23,600 i don't think i'd seen one until then so 2484 01:28:27,030 --> 01:28:25,360 for me to actually see one with my own 2485 01:28:29,590 --> 01:28:27,040 eyes and witness it with somebody else 2486 01:28:30,870 --> 01:28:29,600 with me it was it was the most freaking 2487 01:28:33,510 --> 01:28:30,880 exciting thing i've ever seen in my 2488 01:28:35,510 --> 01:28:33,520 entire life and at the same time it was 2489 01:28:36,550 --> 01:28:35,520 most relieving thing because i was like 2490 01:28:38,070 --> 01:28:36,560 oh 2491 01:28:40,629 --> 01:28:38,080 there you go i'm not just looking at 2492 01:28:42,550 --> 01:28:40,639 this on some youtube video that i spent 2493 01:28:45,030 --> 01:28:42,560 hours and hours looking at 2494 01:28:46,709 --> 01:28:45,040 yeah maybe wasting my time right yeah 2495 01:28:49,110 --> 01:28:46,719 and then i look at it i'm like holy [\h__\h] 2496 01:28:51,189 --> 01:28:49,120 there it is i actually saw it in my eyes 2497 01:28:51,910 --> 01:28:51,199 so it was relieved to actually see them 2498 01:28:53,669 --> 01:28:51,920 so 2499 01:28:55,590 --> 01:28:53,679 yes i've seen them and that was that was 2500 01:28:56,390 --> 01:28:55,600 close i mean that was 100 feet away from 2501 01:28:57,669 --> 01:28:56,400 us 2502 01:28:58,550 --> 01:28:57,679 yeah you know 2503 01:29:00,709 --> 01:28:58,560 you know 2504 01:29:01,830 --> 01:29:00,719 the size of our your thumb in the sky is 2505 01:29:04,390 --> 01:29:01,840 that low 2506 01:29:05,830 --> 01:29:04,400 wow so imagine the orbs that you see 2507 01:29:08,229 --> 01:29:05,840 and who do you imagine one of those 2508 01:29:10,390 --> 01:29:08,239 coming right right now 2509 01:29:12,550 --> 01:29:10,400 dude uh yeah the 2510 01:29:14,629 --> 01:29:12,560 so the thing that flew over my house was 2511 01:29:15,510 --> 01:29:14,639 this this orange 2512 01:29:17,990 --> 01:29:15,520 like 2513 01:29:19,750 --> 01:29:18,000 contained light type thing it was kind 2514 01:29:21,910 --> 01:29:19,760 of the same thing dude it was like hold 2515 01:29:23,830 --> 01:29:21,920 your hand up in the sky like you know 2516 01:29:25,830 --> 01:29:23,840 it's like the size of your thumb your 2517 01:29:27,430 --> 01:29:25,840 thumbnail or like put a pencil up there 2518 01:29:29,590 --> 01:29:27,440 and it's almost the size like the eraser 2519 01:29:31,990 --> 01:29:29,600 it's it's it's like it's weird right 2520 01:29:34,709 --> 01:29:32,000 because it's like either really high and 2521 01:29:36,709 --> 01:29:34,719 it's massive or it's really low and not 2522 01:29:39,430 --> 01:29:36,719 like as big as you think it is it's such 2523 01:29:42,390 --> 01:29:39,440 a weird perspective and if it's really 2524 01:29:44,629 --> 01:29:42,400 high and massive it's mind-boggling to 2525 01:29:46,470 --> 01:29:44,639 think how massive that thing is because 2526 01:29:49,030 --> 01:29:46,480 like when we see them up there we know 2527 01:29:50,709 --> 01:29:49,040 how big an airplane is in the sky and 2528 01:29:52,709 --> 01:29:50,719 you see something up there six seven 2529 01:29:55,750 --> 01:29:52,719 times bigger than an airplane 2530 01:29:57,110 --> 01:29:55,760 that's huge i mean that's just so huge i 2531 01:29:58,790 --> 01:29:57,120 can't imagine what that would look like 2532 01:30:00,950 --> 01:29:58,800 on the ground yeah 2533 01:30:02,629 --> 01:30:00,960 this thing was only the size of an suv 2534 01:30:04,390 --> 01:30:02,639 or something you know yeah because don't 2535 01:30:06,310 --> 01:30:04,400 think about the size of it and the fact 2536 01:30:08,470 --> 01:30:06,320 that it followed an airplane because it 2537 01:30:10,550 --> 01:30:08,480 was like going hey look look at me it 2538 01:30:12,390 --> 01:30:10,560 compared itself to the plane for us it 2539 01:30:13,830 --> 01:30:12,400 put on a little show it was like look 2540 01:30:16,149 --> 01:30:13,840 what i can do it went up behind the 2541 01:30:17,510 --> 01:30:16,159 plane it's following the plane and it 2542 01:30:20,950 --> 01:30:17,520 can't have been much bigger than the 2543 01:30:23,189 --> 01:30:20,960 tail of the aircraft so it can't have 2544 01:30:24,870 --> 01:30:23,199 been it wasn't big at all you know like 2545 01:30:27,430 --> 01:30:24,880 i definitely like to say is the size of 2546 01:30:29,669 --> 01:30:27,440 an suv or something 2547 01:30:31,350 --> 01:30:29,679 that's cool man that's cool i like that 2548 01:30:33,350 --> 01:30:31,360 uh that idea 2549 01:30:36,229 --> 01:30:33,360 that you know 2550 01:30:38,310 --> 01:30:36,239 with the the kind of the the cloaked 2551 01:30:40,629 --> 01:30:38,320 object you know walking in front of you 2552 01:30:42,310 --> 01:30:40,639 you know like it's it's it's 2553 01:30:43,910 --> 01:30:42,320 it's like kind of just your basic human 2554 01:30:46,149 --> 01:30:43,920 nature to be like oh my god that was a 2555 01:30:47,750 --> 01:30:46,159 ghost right but then you look a little 2556 01:30:50,070 --> 01:30:47,760 deeper and you're like man that wasn't a 2557 01:30:51,350 --> 01:30:50,080 ghost you know that was 2558 01:30:53,270 --> 01:30:51,360 that could have been something walking 2559 01:30:55,270 --> 01:30:53,280 around cloaked and then you just think 2560 01:30:56,709 --> 01:30:55,280 about the idea that like it was in your 2561 01:30:59,350 --> 01:30:56,719 house right 2562 01:31:00,470 --> 01:30:59,360 and you just so happen to just catch it 2563 01:31:03,430 --> 01:31:00,480 out of the corner of your eye and then 2564 01:31:05,189 --> 01:31:03,440 you follow it right did it did it did it 2565 01:31:07,510 --> 01:31:05,199 like just uh 2566 01:31:09,430 --> 01:31:07,520 did you follow it out somewhere or did 2567 01:31:11,669 --> 01:31:09,440 it did it just kind of disappeared did 2568 01:31:13,510 --> 01:31:11,679 it just kind of dissipate you know 2569 01:31:15,189 --> 01:31:13,520 oh yeah i don't know i just i just know 2570 01:31:16,790 --> 01:31:15,199 it just crossed the end of the bed 2571 01:31:18,629 --> 01:31:16,800 through the room so it was walking 2572 01:31:20,070 --> 01:31:18,639 through our room and then that makes you 2573 01:31:22,709 --> 01:31:20,080 think 2574 01:31:23,910 --> 01:31:22,719 just in your everyday life how much 2575 01:31:25,350 --> 01:31:23,920 cloaked 2576 01:31:27,270 --> 01:31:25,360 forefoot 2577 01:31:29,590 --> 01:31:27,280 things are walking around every day and 2578 01:31:30,870 --> 01:31:29,600 you're just not even paying attention 2579 01:31:33,910 --> 01:31:30,880 not even 2580 01:31:36,310 --> 01:31:33,920 did you guys see um the 2581 01:31:38,470 --> 01:31:36,320 the pantry ghost 2582 01:31:41,110 --> 01:31:38,480 uh videos 2583 01:31:45,189 --> 01:31:43,430 but san diego like it's a new house 2584 01:31:47,270 --> 01:31:45,199 there were a bunch of videos this guy 2585 01:31:48,310 --> 01:31:47,280 posted to youtube they kind of stitched 2586 01:31:50,470 --> 01:31:48,320 them together and made a little 2587 01:31:53,510 --> 01:31:50,480 documentary about it um 2588 01:31:55,750 --> 01:31:53,520 but the way it started was the guy just 2589 01:31:58,709 --> 01:31:55,760 was starting to notice 2590 01:32:01,350 --> 01:31:58,719 things around the house that didn't seem 2591 01:32:03,189 --> 01:32:01,360 like it was the way he left it 2592 01:32:04,629 --> 01:32:03,199 and he would never have noticed these 2593 01:32:07,270 --> 01:32:04,639 things but he was doing like a 2594 01:32:09,510 --> 01:32:07,280 mindfulness practice where he was trying 2595 01:32:11,189 --> 01:32:09,520 extra to be mindful of the things around 2596 01:32:13,430 --> 01:32:11,199 him and so he would notice like he 2597 01:32:16,229 --> 01:32:13,440 started writing post-it notes the light 2598 01:32:17,990 --> 01:32:16,239 switches off 11 45 pm 2599 01:32:20,629 --> 01:32:18,000 and the one thing that kept getting them 2600 01:32:23,750 --> 01:32:20,639 was the pantry door kept opening 2601 01:32:25,110 --> 01:32:23,760 and oh my gosh wait till you see what 2602 01:32:27,510 --> 01:32:25,120 presents itself in the door of the 2603 01:32:30,629 --> 01:32:27,520 pantry this thing was opening his pantry 2604 01:32:33,350 --> 01:32:30,639 door every night at 12 34 every night at 2605 01:32:35,030 --> 01:32:33,360 12 34 that pantry door would go on 2606 01:32:37,830 --> 01:32:35,040 maybe he was hungry 2607 01:32:39,270 --> 01:32:37,840 i mean it was but you know he never 2608 01:32:40,950 --> 01:32:39,280 would have noticed 2609 01:32:43,110 --> 01:32:40,960 oh yeah no the ghost then the the 2610 01:32:45,110 --> 01:32:43,120 creature was hiding in his daughter's 2611 01:32:48,390 --> 01:32:45,120 bedroom she thought it was her imaginary 2612 01:32:49,270 --> 01:32:48,400 friend or this this ghost thing 2613 01:32:51,270 --> 01:32:49,280 but 2614 01:32:53,110 --> 01:32:51,280 he never would have noticed this thing 2615 01:32:55,510 --> 01:32:53,120 in his pantry 2616 01:32:57,910 --> 01:32:55,520 if it wasn't for the small observation 2617 01:33:00,070 --> 01:32:57,920 that the pantry door was open and he had 2618 01:33:02,070 --> 01:33:00,080 closed it the night before 2619 01:33:04,709 --> 01:33:02,080 so it's like damien was saying you know 2620 01:33:09,189 --> 01:33:04,719 he he made the he had that quick 2621 01:33:12,070 --> 01:33:10,790 yeah damian wasn't in a prediction where 2622 01:33:13,590 --> 01:33:12,080 he could do that every night that thing 2623 01:33:15,590 --> 01:33:13,600 was coming every night but this guy was 2624 01:33:17,350 --> 01:33:15,600 in a spot where 2625 01:33:19,270 --> 01:33:17,360 it was in his house and it was happening 2626 01:33:19,990 --> 01:33:19,280 every night at the same time was able to 2627 01:33:21,270 --> 01:33:20,000 get 2628 01:33:23,750 --> 01:33:21,280 so 2629 01:33:25,750 --> 01:33:23,760 it's really um i think 2630 01:33:26,629 --> 01:33:25,760 people like damien who can 2631 01:33:29,350 --> 01:33:26,639 spot 2632 01:33:31,030 --> 01:33:29,360 a small detail like that are definitely 2633 01:33:32,870 --> 01:33:31,040 good to have around on when you're 2634 01:33:33,910 --> 01:33:32,880 hunting the unexplained 2635 01:33:36,070 --> 01:33:33,920 because 2636 01:33:38,470 --> 01:33:36,080 you know noticing those little details 2637 01:33:40,310 --> 01:33:38,480 that play a big part in finding the the 2638 01:33:41,110 --> 01:33:40,320 puzzle pieces you need 2639 01:33:45,990 --> 01:33:41,120 yeah 2640 01:33:48,709 --> 01:33:46,000 that uh oh go for it sorry oh voodoo so 2641 01:33:52,629 --> 01:33:48,719 was it was it you that was telling uh a 2642 01:33:54,310 --> 01:33:52,639 story this was at um jocelyn's uh house 2643 01:33:56,950 --> 01:33:54,320 the skywatch night 2644 01:34:00,709 --> 01:33:56,960 was either was telling us uh about the 2645 01:34:05,830 --> 01:34:00,719 the cat like the the giant lion half 2646 01:34:11,030 --> 01:34:07,910 population or that do you mean that i 2647 01:34:13,270 --> 01:34:11,040 saw that or have i heard of aliens like 2648 01:34:15,510 --> 01:34:13,280 that i think you had maybe mentioned you 2649 01:34:17,830 --> 01:34:15,520 saw a footprint that looked like it came 2650 01:34:20,229 --> 01:34:17,840 from like a massive cat something that 2651 01:34:23,030 --> 01:34:20,239 might have been bigger than a lion 2652 01:34:24,870 --> 01:34:23,040 so that's the one that i earlier said 2653 01:34:26,470 --> 01:34:24,880 like a dinosaur must have made because i 2654 01:34:28,870 --> 01:34:26,480 didn't know how to explain but you're 2655 01:34:31,189 --> 01:34:28,880 100 right when i first saw it before tom 2656 01:34:33,910 --> 01:34:31,199 started saying that they saw dinosaurs 2657 01:34:35,669 --> 01:34:33,920 out there the first thing that came to 2658 01:34:38,629 --> 01:34:35,679 my mind was a 2659 01:34:41,750 --> 01:34:38,639 cat foot because the track was round in 2660 01:34:45,590 --> 01:34:41,760 general but like 13 inches in diameter 2661 01:34:48,470 --> 01:34:45,600 but it had like a centralized pad 2662 01:34:50,550 --> 01:34:48,480 and then toes on the top 2663 01:34:53,430 --> 01:34:50,560 so it didn't look like a cat track but 2664 01:34:55,910 --> 01:34:53,440 it had that same type of feeling that 2665 01:34:58,629 --> 01:34:55,920 okay because it didn't have claws 2666 01:35:00,790 --> 01:34:58,639 so they were attracted claws 2667 01:35:02,390 --> 01:35:00,800 but then hearing that they see dinosaurs 2668 01:35:04,390 --> 01:35:02,400 out there i was like okay maybe a 2669 01:35:06,870 --> 01:35:04,400 dinosaur could do you know who knows but 2670 01:35:09,109 --> 01:35:06,880 it it to me at first it looked like 2671 01:35:11,350 --> 01:35:09,119 there was some 15-foot 2672 01:35:13,030 --> 01:35:11,360 two-legged cat creature that weighed a 2673 01:35:15,270 --> 01:35:13,040 thousand pounds 2674 01:35:16,310 --> 01:35:15,280 walking around the ranch 2675 01:35:18,709 --> 01:35:16,320 and it's 2676 01:35:20,470 --> 01:35:18,719 just so strange 2677 01:35:22,390 --> 01:35:20,480 when it's right in front of your face 2678 01:35:24,790 --> 01:35:22,400 and you're just thinking to yourself 2679 01:35:26,229 --> 01:35:24,800 wait what made this 2680 01:35:27,830 --> 01:35:26,239 this is right here you know i'm not 2681 01:35:29,350 --> 01:35:27,840 looking at it on a video like hold on a 2682 01:35:30,629 --> 01:35:29,360 second there's nothing i'm in the middle 2683 01:35:32,310 --> 01:35:30,639 of nowhere 2684 01:35:33,669 --> 01:35:32,320 there aren't people on the ramp you know 2685 01:35:36,229 --> 01:35:33,679 where the bradshaw ranch is there's 2686 01:35:37,430 --> 01:35:36,239 nobody out there on accident walking 2687 01:35:39,750 --> 01:35:37,440 through the front yard because they're 2688 01:35:43,990 --> 01:35:39,760 lost like it doesn't happen 2689 01:35:48,790 --> 01:35:46,390 i always think that like 2690 01:35:50,390 --> 01:35:48,800 we're seeing these massive animals you 2691 01:35:52,310 --> 01:35:50,400 had told a story earlier about somebody 2692 01:35:56,870 --> 01:35:52,320 seeing a pterodactyl you know we're 2693 01:35:58,629 --> 01:35:56,880 seeing the dog man we're seeing large uh 2694 01:36:00,790 --> 01:35:58,639 things that you know 2695 01:36:02,149 --> 01:36:00,800 hominids bigfoot whatever you want to 2696 01:36:03,669 --> 01:36:02,159 call them right we're seeing these 2697 01:36:05,510 --> 01:36:03,679 things and you know it's it's 2698 01:36:06,629 --> 01:36:05,520 interesting because 2699 01:36:08,070 --> 01:36:06,639 you know 2700 01:36:10,229 --> 01:36:08,080 before like one of the largest 2701 01:36:12,310 --> 01:36:10,239 catastrophic events to happen on earth 2702 01:36:15,669 --> 01:36:12,320 you know the the united states north 2703 01:36:18,870 --> 01:36:15,679 america uh was home to the largest land 2704 01:36:21,270 --> 01:36:18,880 animals on the planet like bigger than 2705 01:36:23,750 --> 01:36:21,280 than uh than animals in africa currently 2706 01:36:25,030 --> 01:36:23,760 today like we were home to the largest 2707 01:36:26,950 --> 01:36:25,040 animal 2708 01:36:28,470 --> 01:36:26,960 yeah and it's it's really interesting 2709 01:36:30,709 --> 01:36:28,480 like when you go in some of these 2710 01:36:31,430 --> 01:36:30,719 certain places that are like really you 2711 01:36:33,750 --> 01:36:31,440 know 2712 01:36:36,950 --> 01:36:33,760 highly energetic or have this electrical 2713 01:36:39,270 --> 01:36:36,960 field um it's you know i always think is 2714 01:36:42,149 --> 01:36:39,280 it possible that maybe we are seeing 2715 01:36:44,709 --> 01:36:42,159 like a little slip in like 2716 01:36:46,149 --> 01:36:44,719 dimension or time 2717 01:36:48,310 --> 01:36:46,159 especially with the especially with the 2718 01:36:50,149 --> 01:36:48,320 dinosaur stuff like yeah 2719 01:36:52,470 --> 01:36:50,159 you don't hear that you don't hear that 2720 01:36:53,669 --> 01:36:52,480 reported very much 2721 01:36:55,430 --> 01:36:53,679 you know i 2722 01:36:56,950 --> 01:36:55,440 we've had other people say oh in the 2723 01:36:58,629 --> 01:36:56,960 cryptic world people are talking more 2724 01:37:00,629 --> 01:36:58,639 and more about dinosaurs i i haven't 2725 01:37:02,470 --> 01:37:00,639 really heard reports of that and so you 2726 01:37:04,310 --> 01:37:02,480 know it made me think like 2727 01:37:08,709 --> 01:37:04,320 what would cause that 2728 01:37:10,709 --> 01:37:08,719 is it a rift like what tom call merging 2729 01:37:13,109 --> 01:37:10,719 dimensions is the name of tom's book is 2730 01:37:15,990 --> 01:37:13,119 it something like that where 2731 01:37:17,669 --> 01:37:16,000 word something that existed in the past 2732 01:37:20,070 --> 01:37:17,679 in that same place 2733 01:37:22,149 --> 01:37:20,080 is somehow 2734 01:37:25,109 --> 01:37:22,159 walking through now 2735 01:37:27,189 --> 01:37:25,119 you know is there some weird thing going 2736 01:37:29,030 --> 01:37:27,199 on there yeah we're where 2737 01:37:31,109 --> 01:37:29,040 they're not necessarily it's not 2738 01:37:33,189 --> 01:37:31,119 necessarily a creature that exists now 2739 01:37:35,189 --> 01:37:33,199 that's living there and feeding and 2740 01:37:36,629 --> 01:37:35,199 breeding yeah but it's a creek that 2741 01:37:39,350 --> 01:37:36,639 lived there maybe millions of years ago 2742 01:37:40,229 --> 01:37:39,360 that for some reason exists on the land 2743 01:37:42,550 --> 01:37:40,239 for 2744 01:37:44,870 --> 01:37:42,560 30 seconds or long enough to make a lot 2745 01:37:46,709 --> 01:37:44,880 of set of tracks and then fades out 2746 01:37:49,189 --> 01:37:46,719 could be i mean i i've certainly thought 2747 01:37:50,709 --> 01:37:49,199 that too because 2748 01:37:51,590 --> 01:37:50,719 nothing makes sense when it comes to 2749 01:37:53,510 --> 01:37:51,600 this place 2750 01:37:57,109 --> 01:37:53,520 it's almost like 2751 01:37:58,790 --> 01:37:57,119 like the planet itself or like you know 2752 01:38:00,470 --> 01:37:58,800 people even talk about like crystals and 2753 01:38:02,870 --> 01:38:00,480 stuff like that how like they actually 2754 01:38:05,109 --> 01:38:02,880 they're actually recording information 2755 01:38:07,669 --> 01:38:05,119 throughout time you know it's like if 2756 01:38:10,070 --> 01:38:07,679 these things are recording information 2757 01:38:13,030 --> 01:38:10,080 maybe it's somehow projecting 2758 01:38:15,590 --> 01:38:13,040 uh you know in in reality like uh you 2759 01:38:16,870 --> 01:38:15,600 know just oh that's a really good idea 2760 01:38:18,709 --> 01:38:16,880 like when you're looking you see it 2761 01:38:20,629 --> 01:38:18,719 you're actually seeing kind of a movie 2762 01:38:22,629 --> 01:38:20,639 being played back to you 2763 01:38:25,830 --> 01:38:22,639 through i mean 2764 01:38:27,510 --> 01:38:25,840 crystals can definitely hold information 2765 01:38:28,950 --> 01:38:27,520 like there's there's not even really any 2766 01:38:32,709 --> 01:38:28,960 doubt about that 2767 01:38:34,550 --> 01:38:32,719 um i can't imagine i don't 2768 01:38:35,910 --> 01:38:34,560 i don't see anything wrong with what 2769 01:38:37,590 --> 01:38:35,920 you're saying like what what you're 2770 01:38:39,669 --> 01:38:37,600 saying 2771 01:38:42,229 --> 01:38:39,679 fits the pieces that exist currently at 2772 01:38:43,590 --> 01:38:42,239 the ranch you know like there there are 2773 01:38:44,790 --> 01:38:43,600 crystals under the ground that have been 2774 01:38:48,950 --> 01:38:44,800 there 2775 01:38:50,310 --> 01:38:48,960 you know however long you want to go 2776 01:38:51,109 --> 01:38:50,320 back those are that crystal has been 2777 01:38:54,550 --> 01:38:51,119 there 2778 01:38:56,950 --> 01:38:54,560 could it easily have captured that 2779 01:38:58,950 --> 01:38:56,960 as some sort of stored memory in the 2780 01:39:00,950 --> 01:38:58,960 crystal we don't understand how crystals 2781 01:39:03,030 --> 01:39:00,960 store energy so maybe it does right 2782 01:39:04,950 --> 01:39:03,040 maybe it doesn't capture that 2783 01:39:07,109 --> 01:39:04,960 and maybe the only thing below the 2784 01:39:09,109 --> 01:39:07,119 crystal that projects energy upward that 2785 01:39:09,990 --> 01:39:09,119 pushes that memory out to the surface or 2786 01:39:12,790 --> 01:39:10,000 something 2787 01:39:15,270 --> 01:39:12,800 yeah yeah like you know uh 2788 01:39:16,950 --> 01:39:15,280 it's it wouldn't explain why you're 2789 01:39:17,830 --> 01:39:16,960 finding 2790 01:39:20,310 --> 01:39:17,840 you know 2791 01:39:22,390 --> 01:39:20,320 massive tracks physically 2792 01:39:24,709 --> 01:39:22,400 and stuff like that but you know it's 2793 01:39:26,629 --> 01:39:24,719 it's you know it's another theory that 2794 01:39:28,629 --> 01:39:26,639 we can all chew on a little bit well i 2795 01:39:32,229 --> 01:39:28,639 mean i like it a lot 2796 01:39:33,669 --> 01:39:32,239 maybe the memory those crystals hold do 2797 01:39:35,910 --> 01:39:33,679 actually have 2798 01:39:37,669 --> 01:39:35,920 some sort of 2799 01:39:40,310 --> 01:39:37,679 matter to them when they manifest 2800 01:39:41,750 --> 01:39:40,320 because what's the difference between 2801 01:39:43,750 --> 01:39:41,760 light and matter 2802 01:39:45,109 --> 01:39:43,760 if it's being observed is the only thing 2803 01:39:47,430 --> 01:39:45,119 right you know the double slit 2804 01:39:49,830 --> 01:39:47,440 experiment where electrons only exist as 2805 01:39:50,709 --> 01:39:49,840 a wave when they're not being observed 2806 01:39:52,390 --> 01:39:50,719 so 2807 01:39:54,229 --> 01:39:52,400 maybe the phenomenon the range has 2808 01:39:56,310 --> 01:39:54,239 something to do with that when it's it's 2809 01:39:58,790 --> 01:39:56,320 only manifesting as real when it's being 2810 01:40:00,550 --> 01:39:58,800 seen by someone because 2811 01:40:02,550 --> 01:40:00,560 that's what changes an electron from 2812 01:40:04,870 --> 01:40:02,560 energy to matter yeah it's kind of like 2813 01:40:06,550 --> 01:40:04,880 this this quantum entanglement idea and 2814 01:40:08,790 --> 01:40:06,560 when the energy gets high enough it's 2815 01:40:12,550 --> 01:40:08,800 exciting all these all these particles 2816 01:40:14,709 --> 01:40:12,560 and atoms but it's also exist it's also 2817 01:40:17,189 --> 01:40:14,719 um exciting all the particles and atoms 2818 01:40:19,430 --> 01:40:17,199 that existed way back then 2819 01:40:21,430 --> 01:40:19,440 right to a certain point to where maybe 2820 01:40:23,510 --> 01:40:21,440 these particles and atoms are actually 2821 01:40:27,109 --> 01:40:23,520 manifesting themselves into something 2822 01:40:29,910 --> 01:40:27,119 physical for a very short period of time 2823 01:40:33,030 --> 01:40:29,920 and then that energy when it's exhausted 2824 01:40:36,310 --> 01:40:33,040 it fizzles out you know so it allows it 2825 01:40:37,590 --> 01:40:36,320 allows the past to come to the present 2826 01:40:39,510 --> 01:40:37,600 just through like this quantum 2827 01:40:41,910 --> 01:40:39,520 entanglement and when the energy is high 2828 01:40:43,350 --> 01:40:41,920 enough it allows the old you know 2829 01:40:45,350 --> 01:40:43,360 because there's 2830 01:40:48,229 --> 01:40:45,360 maybe more than that maybe it's both 2831 01:40:51,350 --> 01:40:48,239 maybe it's not just projecting the old 2832 01:40:53,990 --> 01:40:51,360 maybe that machine if we call it that 2833 01:40:55,669 --> 01:40:54,000 say like in the future as well yeah or 2834 01:40:58,629 --> 01:40:55,679 maybe yeah maybe it's the same thing 2835 01:41:01,270 --> 01:40:58,639 that gives the other beings a doorway 2836 01:41:03,910 --> 01:41:01,280 into that property is in it maybe it's 2837 01:41:06,070 --> 01:41:03,920 doing all those things simultaneously 2838 01:41:08,070 --> 01:41:06,080 and you know it's just a massive thing 2839 01:41:09,910 --> 01:41:08,080 we can't quite get a grip on yet but i 2840 01:41:12,149 --> 01:41:09,920 mean that 2841 01:41:14,229 --> 01:41:12,159 all of that you just said i mean 2842 01:41:15,669 --> 01:41:14,239 makes sense like you can point all those 2843 01:41:18,149 --> 01:41:15,679 you can draw a line between all those 2844 01:41:20,229 --> 01:41:18,159 dots and it still applies at the ranch 2845 01:41:22,229 --> 01:41:20,239 and that's what i try to do is 2846 01:41:23,750 --> 01:41:22,239 the truth will apply to every situation 2847 01:41:24,950 --> 01:41:23,760 you throw at it 2848 01:41:27,109 --> 01:41:24,960 and so 2849 01:41:28,550 --> 01:41:27,119 you know the very truth is going to be 2850 01:41:30,470 --> 01:41:28,560 very basic 2851 01:41:32,390 --> 01:41:30,480 because it's going to be simplified down 2852 01:41:34,550 --> 01:41:32,400 really far so 2853 01:41:37,189 --> 01:41:34,560 any theories or stuff when i get i just 2854 01:41:38,790 --> 01:41:37,199 try to throw experiences or things that 2855 01:41:40,950 --> 01:41:38,800 i know have happened to it does it 2856 01:41:42,790 --> 01:41:40,960 explain it can that hold water during 2857 01:41:44,550 --> 01:41:42,800 all this and that's kind of just the 2858 01:41:45,510 --> 01:41:44,560 logical approach i take to it i guess 2859 01:41:47,030 --> 01:41:45,520 but 2860 01:41:49,669 --> 01:41:47,040 yeah like all that stuff you said we 2861 01:41:51,189 --> 01:41:49,679 don't know how those crystals 2862 01:41:53,590 --> 01:41:51,199 are able to store 2863 01:41:55,189 --> 01:41:53,600 and distribute 2864 01:41:56,870 --> 01:41:55,199 so we have a comment 2865 01:41:58,470 --> 01:41:56,880 yeah it says the scientists use a 2866 01:42:00,310 --> 01:41:58,480 sophisticated laser to encode the 2867 01:42:03,189 --> 01:42:00,320 information into the minuscule 2868 01:42:05,590 --> 01:42:03,199 formations known as nanostructures 2869 01:42:07,510 --> 01:42:05,600 inside the fused quartz the structures 2870 01:42:08,709 --> 01:42:07,520 alter the way the light travels through 2871 01:42:10,709 --> 01:42:08,719 the glass 2872 01:42:13,109 --> 01:42:10,719 so so if they're using a laser that 2873 01:42:15,590 --> 01:42:13,119 means that it's still light 2874 01:42:18,310 --> 01:42:15,600 they're using light to store information 2875 01:42:20,629 --> 01:42:18,320 on a crystal and maybe the higher level 2876 01:42:23,109 --> 01:42:20,639 beings have something like a laser some 2877 01:42:25,270 --> 01:42:23,119 light powered thing they 2878 01:42:27,350 --> 01:42:25,280 have used over the years to store 2879 01:42:29,109 --> 01:42:27,360 information in crystals on earth 2880 01:42:30,070 --> 01:42:29,119 who knows i'd love to learn more about 2881 01:42:31,750 --> 01:42:30,080 it 2882 01:42:34,470 --> 01:42:31,760 i'm wondering if that's kind of how like 2883 01:42:36,709 --> 01:42:34,480 google crystal works you know 2884 01:42:37,990 --> 01:42:36,719 oh the time crystal the the time crystal 2885 01:42:39,830 --> 01:42:38,000 thing yeah that 2886 01:42:42,629 --> 01:42:39,840 they started using 2887 01:42:44,229 --> 01:42:42,639 tachyon like tachyons 2888 01:42:45,590 --> 01:42:44,239 what's the google time crystal i don't 2889 01:42:51,270 --> 01:42:45,600 even know 2890 01:42:55,590 --> 01:42:52,709 it has something to do with the quantum 2891 01:42:58,070 --> 01:42:55,600 computer that they created and how they 2892 01:42:59,750 --> 01:42:58,080 stopped time within a crystalline 2893 01:43:00,470 --> 01:42:59,760 structure like it's 2894 01:43:02,390 --> 01:43:00,480 okay 2895 01:43:04,709 --> 01:43:02,400 i know they were working on 2896 01:43:06,550 --> 01:43:04,719 quantum computers they said will get so 2897 01:43:09,510 --> 01:43:06,560 fast that they'll give you the answer 2898 01:43:10,790 --> 01:43:09,520 before you're done typing the question 2899 01:43:13,510 --> 01:43:10,800 and i thought that would be really 2900 01:43:14,870 --> 01:43:13,520 awkward to use 2901 01:43:18,390 --> 01:43:14,880 that would be pretty fresh what's the 2902 01:43:21,750 --> 01:43:19,990 that's not what i wanted google that's 2903 01:43:26,629 --> 01:43:21,760 not what i wanted 2904 01:43:32,149 --> 01:43:30,310 oh my god man so time crystal is in in 2905 01:43:34,310 --> 01:43:32,159 condensed matter physics a time crystal 2906 01:43:37,510 --> 01:43:34,320 is a quantum system of particles who 2907 01:43:39,750 --> 01:43:37,520 lowest whose lowest energy state is one 2908 01:43:42,070 --> 01:43:39,760 in which the particles are in repetitive 2909 01:43:44,310 --> 01:43:42,080 motion the system cannot lose energy to 2910 01:43:46,310 --> 01:43:44,320 the environment and come to rest because 2911 01:43:49,510 --> 01:43:46,320 it is already in its quantum ground 2912 01:43:51,270 --> 01:43:49,520 state because of this actual emotion 2913 01:43:53,350 --> 01:43:51,280 yeah but it's like you can't access it 2914 01:43:55,270 --> 01:43:53,360 because there's right there's contained 2915 01:43:56,950 --> 01:43:55,280 perpetual motion and that's what that's 2916 01:43:59,350 --> 01:43:56,960 why they're saying it's frozen in time 2917 01:44:01,590 --> 01:43:59,360 maybe yeah yeah i don't know what any of 2918 01:44:03,109 --> 01:44:01,600 those words mean but uh it sounds cool 2919 01:44:07,750 --> 01:44:03,119 right 2920 01:44:10,470 --> 01:44:09,109 it's really short but it kind of sums up 2921 01:44:12,310 --> 01:44:10,480 that it's like because of this the the 2922 01:44:14,149 --> 01:44:12,320 motion of the particles does not really 2923 01:44:15,830 --> 01:44:14,159 represent kinetic energy like other 2924 01:44:17,590 --> 01:44:15,840 motions so like without 2925 01:44:18,950 --> 01:44:17,600 yeah like without kinetic energy there 2926 01:44:20,229 --> 01:44:18,960 is no 2927 01:44:21,750 --> 01:44:20,239 uh 2928 01:44:23,830 --> 01:44:21,760 swapping or 2929 01:44:25,910 --> 01:44:23,840 uh reducing or 2930 01:44:27,270 --> 01:44:25,920 transmuting of of energy so that that 2931 01:44:28,470 --> 01:44:27,280 makes sense so like 2932 01:44:33,189 --> 01:44:28,480 yeah if there's nothing to receive it 2933 01:44:36,149 --> 01:44:33,199 then there's nothing to decode yeah yeah 2934 01:44:38,229 --> 01:44:36,159 i i ran out of words to say 2935 01:44:40,229 --> 01:44:38,239 i think i think tachyons have something 2936 01:44:41,430 --> 01:44:40,239 i think there is really particles called 2937 01:44:44,310 --> 01:44:41,440 tachyons 2938 01:44:46,149 --> 01:44:44,320 that had something to do with going 2939 01:44:48,070 --> 01:44:46,159 backwards i don't know if you guys have 2940 01:44:49,510 --> 01:44:48,080 the ability to look up tachyons that 2941 01:44:50,629 --> 01:44:49,520 looks like he's on it 2942 01:44:52,149 --> 01:44:50,639 but i 2943 01:44:55,830 --> 01:44:52,159 vaguely remember those having something 2944 01:45:00,229 --> 01:44:57,669 odd properties 2945 01:45:02,550 --> 01:45:00,239 a tachyon or tachyonic particle is a 2946 01:45:05,350 --> 01:45:02,560 hypothetic part hypothetical particle 2947 01:45:07,109 --> 01:45:05,360 that always travels faster than light 2948 01:45:09,750 --> 01:45:07,119 that's what it is 2949 01:45:11,030 --> 01:45:09,760 backwards inside it's backwards in time 2950 01:45:13,350 --> 01:45:11,040 i thought that was just in the movie but 2951 01:45:15,990 --> 01:45:13,360 there you go interesting 2952 01:45:21,109 --> 01:45:16,000 yeah yeah this is it's not just in the 2953 01:45:25,830 --> 01:45:23,830 damien dude hypothetical thing yeah 2954 01:45:28,470 --> 01:45:25,840 after after doing this uh after doing 2955 01:45:31,030 --> 01:45:28,480 this project man do you do you see uh do 2956 01:45:33,109 --> 01:45:31,040 you see this stuff maybe becoming a a 2957 01:45:34,629 --> 01:45:33,119 little more like i don't i don't really 2958 01:45:36,070 --> 01:45:34,639 know you personally so this may be like 2959 01:45:37,430 --> 01:45:36,080 a big thing in your life you know this 2960 01:45:39,830 --> 01:45:37,440 may be something that you focus on all 2961 01:45:42,550 --> 01:45:39,840 the time but but if not you do you feel 2962 01:45:44,950 --> 01:45:42,560 like this project kind of is like any 2963 01:45:47,830 --> 01:45:44,960 sparked any more like curiosity or 2964 01:45:49,270 --> 01:45:47,840 inspiration to like just keep digging 2965 01:45:51,189 --> 01:45:49,280 deeper and deeper do you do you feel 2966 01:45:52,550 --> 01:45:51,199 like you have the bug a little bit or is 2967 01:45:55,350 --> 01:45:52,560 it just kind of like that's a cool 2968 01:45:59,590 --> 01:45:57,430 well i'm interested in the subject 2969 01:46:02,550 --> 01:45:59,600 anyway so yeah yeah 2970 01:46:03,510 --> 01:46:02,560 i i think it's a great project i i enjoy 2971 01:46:05,430 --> 01:46:03,520 it and 2972 01:46:06,470 --> 01:46:05,440 i enjoy what we're 2973 01:46:09,270 --> 01:46:06,480 finding 2974 01:46:10,950 --> 01:46:09,280 and i think we're going to make more 2975 01:46:12,950 --> 01:46:10,960 who do so we're making more right i 2976 01:46:14,950 --> 01:46:12,960 think that's what i wanted to do 2977 01:46:16,310 --> 01:46:14,960 just film it all man and yeah i was 2978 01:46:19,030 --> 01:46:16,320 telling him you know i hope to have you 2979 01:46:21,750 --> 01:46:19,040 out as every trip i can so that 2980 01:46:23,270 --> 01:46:21,760 when something does happen we can get 2981 01:46:25,669 --> 01:46:23,280 the cameras out you know it's going to 2982 01:46:28,070 --> 01:46:25,679 happen whenever they let it happen it's 2983 01:46:30,229 --> 01:46:28,080 not up to us so we just need to be there 2984 01:46:32,709 --> 01:46:30,239 as much as we can 2985 01:46:35,350 --> 01:46:32,719 yeah like i was saying to some some 2986 01:46:37,350 --> 01:46:35,360 scientists um it seems to like us 2987 01:46:40,310 --> 01:46:37,360 whatever's happening there so 2988 01:46:41,990 --> 01:46:40,320 i think we're gonna go back and uh and 2989 01:46:43,669 --> 01:46:42,000 make some more there's other projects 2990 01:46:46,070 --> 01:46:43,679 i'm doing too but i i really like this 2991 01:46:47,910 --> 01:46:46,080 one it's definitely a passion project 2992 01:46:49,590 --> 01:46:47,920 uh the hoodoo tools awesome we have a 2993 01:46:51,270 --> 01:46:49,600 good time camping out 2994 01:46:53,510 --> 01:46:51,280 making fires 2995 01:46:55,109 --> 01:46:53,520 every night at the campsite and ufo 2996 01:46:57,750 --> 01:46:55,119 spotting and 2997 01:47:00,310 --> 01:46:57,760 going out and showing me these tracks 2998 01:47:02,550 --> 01:47:00,320 for me it is just it's just awesome so 2999 01:47:05,830 --> 01:47:04,229 there's petroglyphs out there of a 3000 01:47:09,669 --> 01:47:05,840 saber-toothed cat 3001 01:47:12,310 --> 01:47:09,679 which you know is obviously predates 3002 01:47:13,189 --> 01:47:12,320 any of the tribes that drew petroglyphs 3003 01:47:15,109 --> 01:47:13,199 out there 3004 01:47:17,830 --> 01:47:15,119 there's tribes that drew petroglyphs in 3005 01:47:20,149 --> 01:47:17,840 that area that look a particular way 3006 01:47:23,350 --> 01:47:20,159 but then there's one that are 10 000 3007 01:47:25,830 --> 01:47:23,360 plus years older and 3008 01:47:28,790 --> 01:47:25,840 50 feet away from the saber-toothed cat 3009 01:47:31,109 --> 01:47:28,800 that i just showed damien is an actual 3010 01:47:32,310 --> 01:47:31,119 carving of a bigfoot creature 3011 01:47:35,350 --> 01:47:32,320 yeah so 3012 01:47:37,270 --> 01:47:35,360 these things have been in the sedona 3013 01:47:39,750 --> 01:47:37,280 area which nobody would guess of big 3014 01:47:40,709 --> 01:47:39,760 monkeys in sedona area but that's it 3015 01:47:41,910 --> 01:47:40,719 there yeah 3016 01:47:45,830 --> 01:47:41,920 so 3017 01:47:47,910 --> 01:47:45,840 this creature 3018 01:47:49,990 --> 01:47:47,920 the first footprint i found of it was in 3019 01:47:51,430 --> 01:47:50,000 the same spot where the petroglyph 3020 01:47:52,709 --> 01:47:51,440 drawings of it are 3021 01:47:54,229 --> 01:47:52,719 and there's more than one drawing 3022 01:47:56,310 --> 01:47:54,239 there's one drawing of it and then 3023 01:47:57,510 --> 01:47:56,320 there's another carving of its footprint 3024 01:47:58,709 --> 01:47:57,520 in the ground 3025 01:48:00,870 --> 01:47:58,719 and 3026 01:48:03,109 --> 01:48:00,880 so that means this creature has been 3027 01:48:05,990 --> 01:48:03,119 walking through that one dry creek bed 3028 01:48:08,070 --> 01:48:06,000 for over ten thousand years now 3029 01:48:08,950 --> 01:48:08,080 and that blows my mind 3030 01:48:11,590 --> 01:48:08,960 that 3031 01:48:13,669 --> 01:48:11,600 a live track and handprint it left its 3032 01:48:14,550 --> 01:48:13,679 knuckle in its foot and where i found 3033 01:48:17,750 --> 01:48:14,560 and 3034 01:48:21,189 --> 01:48:17,760 in that same place are carvings that old 3035 01:48:23,030 --> 01:48:21,199 of the same phenomenon happening 3036 01:48:24,470 --> 01:48:23,040 dude that's that has to be like you saw 3037 01:48:26,229 --> 01:48:24,480 man 3038 01:48:27,189 --> 01:48:26,239 i'm looking at it too and i'm like yeah 3039 01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:27,199 that's it 3040 01:48:29,669 --> 01:48:27,610 yeah 3041 01:48:31,350 --> 01:48:29,679 [Laughter] 3042 01:48:32,790 --> 01:48:31,360 those are bear paws yeah i have pictures 3043 01:48:34,310 --> 01:48:32,800 i've seen those bear paws out there i 3044 01:48:35,750 --> 01:48:34,320 know exactly where those are yeah next 3045 01:48:38,629 --> 01:48:35,760 time i go out there i have to show you 3046 01:48:41,510 --> 01:48:38,639 guys uh this this spot because there's 3047 01:48:43,270 --> 01:48:41,520 three drawings of et's there 3048 01:48:44,870 --> 01:48:43,280 there's a sky person 3049 01:48:46,470 --> 01:48:44,880 or there's two sky people drawings 3050 01:48:48,470 --> 01:48:46,480 there's an ant person drawing and 3051 01:48:50,149 --> 01:48:48,480 there's another drawing of an et with 3052 01:48:51,910 --> 01:48:50,159 three antenna on his head i have a 3053 01:48:53,910 --> 01:48:51,920 picture of myself in front of those two 3054 01:48:56,629 --> 01:48:53,920 elks doing it that's really funny that's 3055 01:49:00,629 --> 01:48:58,629 that the one of the two elk that's where 3056 01:49:02,310 --> 01:49:00,639 the ant person is and i'm surprised they 3057 01:49:04,470 --> 01:49:02,320 just put a picture up of those two elk 3058 01:49:06,550 --> 01:49:04,480 and not the impressive mural that is 3059 01:49:08,310 --> 01:49:06,560 right below that yeah 3060 01:49:10,149 --> 01:49:08,320 but we showed up in the documentary too 3061 01:49:12,709 --> 01:49:10,159 when people go to watch it though we do 3062 01:49:14,149 --> 01:49:12,719 a recap of all those um petroglyphs and 3063 01:49:15,750 --> 01:49:14,159 stuff like that 3064 01:49:18,390 --> 01:49:15,760 yeah man we got we got to schedule a 3065 01:49:20,149 --> 01:49:18,400 trip uh me and ben 3066 01:49:21,669 --> 01:49:20,159 meet up with you guys and just go on 3067 01:49:23,270 --> 01:49:21,679 we'll be back in the end of june i'll 3068 01:49:25,430 --> 01:49:23,280 message you the dates if you guys think 3069 01:49:27,350 --> 01:49:25,440 you can swing out there in june 3070 01:49:29,109 --> 01:49:27,360 yeah oh it looks like a 3071 01:49:30,310 --> 01:49:29,119 hoodoo tool clip right there huh yeah 3072 01:49:31,910 --> 01:49:30,320 yeah yeah we were going through it 3073 01:49:33,589 --> 01:49:31,920 earlier and planned some of the showing 3074 01:49:36,149 --> 01:49:33,599 some of the photos and stuff 3075 01:49:38,709 --> 01:49:36,159 yeah yeah some good stuff yeah there's 3076 01:49:40,629 --> 01:49:38,719 just really really good stuff out in in 3077 01:49:41,350 --> 01:49:40,639 this in this documentary man like i said 3078 01:50:01,510 --> 01:49:41,360 i 3079 01:50:03,189 --> 01:50:01,520 met you guys at jocelyn's house yeah 3080 01:50:06,470 --> 01:50:03,199 such a trip that we were like filming at 3081 01:50:09,109 --> 01:50:06,480 the same time like yeah in the same area 3082 01:50:11,430 --> 01:50:09,119 we just ended up meeting like it's it's 3083 01:50:14,149 --> 01:50:11,440 it's kind of a trip it's kind of a trip 3084 01:50:16,550 --> 01:50:14,159 but yeah synchronicity at its finest i 3085 01:50:17,510 --> 01:50:16,560 know i'm not telling you man i'm telling 3086 01:50:19,750 --> 01:50:17,520 you 3087 01:50:21,830 --> 01:50:19,760 but yeah i mean look how slow that that 3088 01:50:24,310 --> 01:50:21,840 object is moving dude that's so slow 3089 01:50:26,390 --> 01:50:24,320 yeah and when you look at the the the 3090 01:50:28,870 --> 01:50:26,400 satellites through the goggles i mean 3091 01:50:31,750 --> 01:50:28,880 they're they're kind of booking it 3092 01:50:34,310 --> 01:50:31,760 so the satellite technicians on the ufo 3093 01:50:36,310 --> 01:50:34,320 tour have given us some great info and 3094 01:50:39,990 --> 01:50:36,320 one of them was 3095 01:50:42,870 --> 01:50:40,000 that he was most blown away by the slow 3096 01:50:44,390 --> 01:50:42,880 traveling ones that we saw because 3097 01:50:46,950 --> 01:50:44,400 every satellite you see is going to be 3098 01:50:49,430 --> 01:50:46,960 going just about the same speed if it 3099 01:50:51,430 --> 01:50:49,440 goes any slower it'll fall 3100 01:50:53,270 --> 01:50:51,440 so this guy was really freaked out by 3101 01:50:55,109 --> 01:50:53,280 the slow moving objects he said because 3102 01:50:57,830 --> 01:50:55,119 we can't put things up there that move 3103 01:51:00,790 --> 01:50:57,840 that slope yeah and so the real slow 3104 01:51:02,229 --> 01:51:00,800 moving ones are really trippy he said 3105 01:51:03,750 --> 01:51:02,239 yeah yeah 3106 01:51:10,149 --> 01:51:03,760 oh dude yeah 3107 01:51:13,910 --> 01:51:11,990 yeah i just needed snake protection at 3108 01:51:15,109 --> 01:51:13,920 this time so i didn't put the whole suit 3109 01:51:16,790 --> 01:51:15,119 on but because it doesn't look like 3110 01:51:18,470 --> 01:51:16,800 she's wearing any armor 3111 01:51:20,709 --> 01:51:18,480 no i went first you know i keep my 3112 01:51:22,629 --> 01:51:20,719 friends safe you guys stand back 3113 01:51:24,709 --> 01:51:22,639 i'll put i'll go in harm's way and then 3114 01:51:26,149 --> 01:51:24,719 let you know give you the all clear hey 3115 01:51:28,550 --> 01:51:26,159 yeah when you go with me 3116 01:51:30,790 --> 01:51:28,560 he says if anything weird happens 3117 01:51:33,510 --> 01:51:30,800 run i'm gonna i'm gonna save you all 3118 01:51:34,390 --> 01:51:33,520 literally he's like i'm gonna go 3119 01:51:36,470 --> 01:51:34,400 yeah 3120 01:51:38,229 --> 01:51:36,480 i told him i told him hey if i look at 3121 01:51:39,510 --> 01:51:38,239 you like this is when he and i are going 3122 01:51:41,270 --> 01:51:39,520 on the ranch by ourselves in the middle 3123 01:51:44,790 --> 01:51:41,280 of the night and i told him like hey if 3124 01:51:47,350 --> 01:51:44,800 i look at you and tell you to run 3125 01:51:49,750 --> 01:51:47,360 don't play any games you run to the car 3126 01:51:51,669 --> 01:51:49,760 like don't say why what like no no if i 3127 01:51:53,030 --> 01:51:51,679 tell you to run that's because it's come 3128 01:51:55,350 --> 01:51:53,040 time where 3129 01:51:56,870 --> 01:51:55,360 it's going down now and it's there's no 3130 01:51:58,790 --> 01:51:56,880 time to talk and you go and he's like 3131 01:52:00,790 --> 01:51:58,800 what are you gonna do like i have a war 3132 01:52:03,109 --> 01:52:00,800 hammer i'm gonna get in the way of 3133 01:52:04,790 --> 01:52:03,119 what's between you and it you get to the 3134 01:52:06,629 --> 01:52:04,800 car and peel out and i'll meet you a 3135 01:52:09,030 --> 01:52:06,639 hundred yards down the road like that's 3136 01:52:10,790 --> 01:52:09,040 fine i'll be i'll be fine but you don't 3137 01:52:12,870 --> 01:52:10,800 have anything so 3138 01:52:14,870 --> 01:52:12,880 you get when if i tell you to get you 3139 01:52:19,270 --> 01:52:14,880 get 3140 01:52:23,510 --> 01:52:21,510 that would do that no i did find a swi i 3141 01:52:24,709 --> 01:52:23,520 used to carry like a viking axe but i 3142 01:52:27,030 --> 01:52:24,719 wanted something that was a little more 3143 01:52:28,629 --> 01:52:27,040 stabby so i got this cool warhammer with 3144 01:52:30,390 --> 01:52:28,639 a big spike on the end 3145 01:52:33,669 --> 01:52:30,400 hell yeah you should just bring out like 3146 01:52:38,229 --> 01:52:35,109 the big ass 3147 01:52:40,310 --> 01:52:38,239 needle on the end of it yeah 3148 01:52:41,270 --> 01:52:40,320 it's practically there yeah practically 3149 01:52:42,790 --> 01:52:41,280 there 3150 01:52:45,270 --> 01:52:42,800 dude that is you know and uh when we 3151 01:52:47,430 --> 01:52:45,280 were out there on the ranch we had a guy 3152 01:52:49,109 --> 01:52:47,440 with us who got service on his cell 3153 01:52:51,030 --> 01:52:49,119 phone because he was using the satellite 3154 01:52:52,790 --> 01:52:51,040 tracker when we were out there 3155 01:52:54,470 --> 01:52:52,800 so i'm gonna check that 3156 01:52:56,709 --> 01:52:54,480 but i thought it would be epic if we 3157 01:52:58,950 --> 01:52:56,719 could somehow 3158 01:53:00,629 --> 01:52:58,960 do one of these shows out there 3159 01:53:01,750 --> 01:53:00,639 oh that'd be cool 3160 01:53:04,229 --> 01:53:01,760 wouldn't that be great like i don't know 3161 01:53:06,070 --> 01:53:04,239 if it's possible but that would be so 3162 01:53:07,910 --> 01:53:06,080 awesome to just go out there for a 3163 01:53:10,470 --> 01:53:07,920 couple hours and just sit and talk like 3164 01:53:14,550 --> 01:53:10,480 this yeah but see what happens it'd be 3165 01:53:17,109 --> 01:53:14,560 awesome to run like the video from a a 3166 01:53:18,950 --> 01:53:17,119 night vision camera yeah into the 3167 01:53:21,030 --> 01:53:18,960 computer so people can see what we're 3168 01:53:22,950 --> 01:53:21,040 seeing that'd be that yeah that would be 3169 01:53:24,390 --> 01:53:22,960 pretty awesome man that would be really 3170 01:53:25,990 --> 01:53:24,400 we might have to try and think of a way 3171 01:53:27,589 --> 01:53:26,000 to really do something great that would 3172 01:53:29,030 --> 01:53:27,599 be i think that would be pretty wild 3173 01:53:30,790 --> 01:53:29,040 we'll have to see when i'm out there 3174 01:53:32,950 --> 01:53:30,800 i'll check service and signal at least 3175 01:53:33,990 --> 01:53:32,960 and see what it's like next time 3176 01:53:36,310 --> 01:53:34,000 we'll just have to get a bunch of 3177 01:53:38,629 --> 01:53:36,320 ethernet cords and uh 3178 01:53:40,950 --> 01:53:38,639 drink them into town 3179 01:53:43,290 --> 01:53:40,960 all the way to johnson's house 3180 01:53:44,390 --> 01:53:43,300 about 10 mile cord 3181 01:53:46,470 --> 01:53:44,400 [Music] 3182 01:53:48,149 --> 01:53:46,480 this is the big ass blue cord 3183 01:53:50,709 --> 01:53:48,159 running from joslin's house all the way 3184 01:53:52,550 --> 01:53:50,719 out to bradshaw ranch 3185 01:54:04,310 --> 01:53:52,560 driving to the car with our handout like 3186 01:54:08,950 --> 01:54:06,149 and you guys will be happy to know that 3187 01:54:11,990 --> 01:54:08,960 not this trip but maybe my november trip 3188 01:54:14,790 --> 01:54:12,000 or for sure by next summer i'll have my 3189 01:54:17,669 --> 01:54:14,800 hot rod ready and i'll be driving 3190 01:54:18,870 --> 01:54:17,679 it out so i'll be really ufo garage 3191 01:54:20,550 --> 01:54:18,880 material 3192 01:54:24,310 --> 01:54:20,560 that was like 3193 01:54:26,990 --> 01:54:24,320 the oldest chevy truck left it's 3194 01:54:30,070 --> 01:54:27,000 serial number on the production of it is 3195 01:54:32,070 --> 01:54:30,080 942 so it's a 940 second chevy truck 3196 01:54:34,470 --> 01:54:32,080 made and i'm just rebuilding and 3197 01:54:36,950 --> 01:54:34,480 rebuilding an ls motor for it now so 3198 01:54:38,629 --> 01:54:36,960 that is cool man that is cool 3199 01:54:40,950 --> 01:54:38,639 i do have some of the garage in there 3200 01:54:42,550 --> 01:54:40,960 still too it's not just ufo 3201 01:54:44,390 --> 01:54:42,560 yes man yeah 3202 01:54:47,270 --> 01:54:44,400 we're having a little uh we're having a 3203 01:54:49,750 --> 01:54:47,280 little get together uh here in texas in 3204 01:54:51,430 --> 01:54:49,760 november where we're just kind of it's 3205 01:54:52,950 --> 01:54:51,440 going to be kind of like the vegas thing 3206 01:54:55,270 --> 01:54:52,960 except for it's going to be kind of out 3207 01:54:57,910 --> 01:54:55,280 in like a camping area and there's like 3208 01:54:59,270 --> 01:54:57,920 tiny houses and tents and yurts and like 3209 01:55:01,750 --> 01:54:59,280 you can bring your own camper you could 3210 01:55:03,109 --> 01:55:01,760 do whatever you want to basically uh but 3211 01:55:05,510 --> 01:55:03,119 yeah we're having a little get together 3212 01:55:07,910 --> 01:55:05,520 out here in november so if you guys are 3213 01:55:09,750 --> 01:55:07,920 interested man y'all come on out that 3214 01:55:11,030 --> 01:55:09,760 would be kind of cool yeah i'll keep in 3215 01:55:12,390 --> 01:55:11,040 touch with you on that that would be 3216 01:55:14,390 --> 01:55:12,400 especially if my 3217 01:55:16,229 --> 01:55:14,400 my truck is ready to go on a road trip 3218 01:55:19,189 --> 01:55:16,239 by then that might be a good reason to 3219 01:55:20,709 --> 01:55:19,199 just get in it and drive yeah man yeah 3220 01:55:22,149 --> 01:55:20,719 definitely so we're gonna we're gonna 3221 01:55:23,990 --> 01:55:22,159 definitely you know we've invited 3222 01:55:25,910 --> 01:55:24,000 everybody i think here pretty soon we're 3223 01:55:27,589 --> 01:55:25,920 gonna start contacting a couple specific 3224 01:55:28,709 --> 01:55:27,599 people and see if they wanna come and 3225 01:55:30,390 --> 01:55:28,719 hang out 3226 01:55:32,950 --> 01:55:30,400 and yeah yeah dude we're just gonna go 3227 01:55:34,470 --> 01:55:32,960 out and sky watch we're gonna barbecue 3228 01:55:35,990 --> 01:55:34,480 we're gonna tell stories we're gonna 3229 01:55:38,070 --> 01:55:36,000 build a campfire 3230 01:55:39,589 --> 01:55:38,080 we're all just gonna be hanging out man 3231 01:55:41,350 --> 01:55:39,599 that sounds like every trip i take to 3232 01:55:43,189 --> 01:55:41,360 sedona just hanging out by the campfire 3233 01:55:44,550 --> 01:55:43,199 watching ufos you know they're just more 3234 01:55:47,189 --> 01:55:44,560 people at your event i'm usually the 3235 01:55:49,430 --> 01:55:47,199 only one sitting around at mine 3236 01:55:50,149 --> 01:55:49,440 yeah well we'll see how many people show 3237 01:55:52,070 --> 01:55:50,159 up 3238 01:55:53,990 --> 01:55:52,080 we don't know yet but it's called mystic 3239 01:55:55,910 --> 01:55:54,000 quarry is the place that we're going to 3240 01:55:57,750 --> 01:55:55,920 be at yeah 3241 01:56:00,229 --> 01:55:57,760 great dude check that out 3242 01:56:02,550 --> 01:56:00,239 yeah this is this is a a photograph from 3243 01:56:05,430 --> 01:56:02,560 the area and you could see the the milky 3244 01:56:06,870 --> 01:56:05,440 way from from the face 3245 01:56:07,750 --> 01:56:06,880 yeah we'll we'll see we'll have to see 3246 01:56:09,430 --> 01:56:07,760 if it 3247 01:56:11,030 --> 01:56:09,440 if the moon's too bright on that weekend 3248 01:56:13,510 --> 01:56:11,040 we did look up at the 3249 01:56:15,030 --> 01:56:13,520 uh thanks to joe requesting that like 3250 01:56:16,310 --> 01:56:15,040 hey what's the moon looking like that 3251 01:56:19,350 --> 01:56:16,320 weekend 3252 01:56:22,310 --> 01:56:19,360 oh yeah in june we're going uh to sedona 3253 01:56:24,229 --> 01:56:22,320 the week before the new moon uh last 3254 01:56:26,550 --> 01:56:24,239 time we went it was a full moon and man 3255 01:56:28,709 --> 01:56:26,560 it's just terrible to try to skywatch 3256 01:56:30,950 --> 01:56:28,719 with the full moon i know yeah it's 3257 01:56:32,950 --> 01:56:30,960 pretty rough it's pretty rough 3258 01:56:34,390 --> 01:56:32,960 but uh yeah yeah you guys are more than 3259 01:56:35,910 --> 01:56:34,400 welcome to come out 3260 01:56:37,030 --> 01:56:35,920 it made great for shooting on the ranch 3261 01:56:38,790 --> 01:56:37,040 though there's footage at the end of the 3262 01:56:40,550 --> 01:56:38,800 ranch where damian is filming me walking 3263 01:56:42,070 --> 01:56:40,560 around in my suit doing wood knocks and 3264 01:56:44,629 --> 01:56:42,080 we were filming that at midnight and it 3265 01:56:47,350 --> 01:56:44,639 looks like it's 5 p.m like it's crazy 3266 01:56:49,109 --> 01:56:47,360 how well his camera captured yeah yeah i 3267 01:56:50,629 --> 01:56:49,119 actually darkened that footage even more 3268 01:56:53,350 --> 01:56:50,639 than it could turn out because it looks 3269 01:56:54,390 --> 01:56:53,360 like just this really weird daylight so 3270 01:56:57,750 --> 01:56:54,400 actually 3271 01:56:59,350 --> 01:56:57,760 that it was night because otherwise it 3272 01:57:01,350 --> 01:56:59,360 looked like some i don't know what it 3273 01:57:03,109 --> 01:57:01,360 would look like it's just bizarre yeah i 3274 01:57:04,229 --> 01:57:03,119 was showing it to people like a couple 3275 01:57:06,149 --> 01:57:04,239 people when we were going through the 3276 01:57:07,830 --> 01:57:06,159 editing and both people i showed it to 3277 01:57:09,669 --> 01:57:07,840 said 3278 01:57:11,270 --> 01:57:09,679 this look like you need to put that this 3279 01:57:12,629 --> 01:57:11,280 is at night because me just looking at 3280 01:57:14,070 --> 01:57:12,639 it this doesn't look like this is at 3281 01:57:15,750 --> 01:57:14,080 night this looks like dinner time and 3282 01:57:17,830 --> 01:57:15,760 you're just out on the ranch walking 3283 01:57:20,070 --> 01:57:17,840 around so yeah no the way he made i mean 3284 01:57:23,030 --> 01:57:20,080 he made it look good but it was so odd 3285 01:57:24,470 --> 01:57:23,040 that his cap his camera captured so well 3286 01:57:26,149 --> 01:57:24,480 that people may not think that it was 3287 01:57:29,750 --> 01:57:26,159 actually nighttime 3288 01:57:34,470 --> 01:57:31,669 i had to knock off because um my 3289 01:57:36,870 --> 01:57:34,480 daughter's bath time is coming up no 3290 01:57:39,109 --> 01:57:36,880 problem man no problem you guys taking 3291 01:57:41,430 --> 01:57:39,119 the time to uh yeah you know to do a 3292 01:57:43,589 --> 01:57:41,440 little uh hoodoo tour show 3293 01:57:45,669 --> 01:57:43,599 and uh good to see everybody and look 3294 01:57:46,950 --> 01:57:45,679 forward to catching you out on that 3295 01:57:48,629 --> 01:57:46,960 expedition 3296 01:57:50,870 --> 01:57:48,639 absolutely man thank you so much for 3297 01:57:52,390 --> 01:57:50,880 stopping by dude again the documentary 3298 01:57:54,550 --> 01:57:52,400 is is fabulous 3299 01:57:56,229 --> 01:57:54,560 we loved it uh it's really good stuff 3300 01:57:57,910 --> 01:57:56,239 and uh i can't wait to see more from 3301 01:57:59,910 --> 01:57:57,920 y'all man 3302 01:58:00,870 --> 01:57:59,920 yeah it's yeah we will work on that 3303 01:58:02,870 --> 01:58:00,880 we're trying to figure out who the 3304 01:58:04,950 --> 01:58:02,880 guests are going to be for them 3305 01:58:06,629 --> 01:58:04,960 we're planning the trip so yeah standby 3306 01:58:07,669 --> 01:58:06,639 should be uh should be exciting so 3307 01:58:09,350 --> 01:58:07,679 that's great 3308 01:58:11,750 --> 01:58:09,360 again people were giving us a little bit 3309 01:58:13,189 --> 01:58:11,760 of a bit of love and you know big thanks 3310 01:58:15,510 --> 01:58:13,199 to the listeners big thanks for hoodoo 3311 01:58:17,510 --> 01:58:15,520 tour being in the film you know without 3312 01:58:21,270 --> 01:58:17,520 him would just be just me pandering 3313 01:58:24,390 --> 01:58:22,629 yes 3314 01:58:26,070 --> 01:58:24,400 well all right damian 3315 01:58:31,430 --> 01:58:26,080 it was good talking to you man we'll see 3316 01:58:35,510 --> 01:58:34,229 yeah man um yeah we are dude that's 3317 01:58:37,510 --> 01:58:35,520 actually perfect timing because we're 3318 01:58:41,109 --> 01:58:37,520 we're getting ready to wrap up this is 3319 01:58:42,550 --> 01:58:41,119 it yeah right now but uh yeah dude uh 3320 01:58:44,229 --> 01:58:42,560 we could have done another two hours of 3321 01:58:46,709 --> 01:58:44,239 this so if any time you guys want to go 3322 01:58:48,629 --> 01:58:46,719 again you let me know and we will man 3323 01:58:51,350 --> 01:58:48,639 you're always welcome on on the garage 3324 01:58:53,830 --> 01:58:51,360 man for sure for sure uh and i know that 3325 01:58:56,470 --> 01:58:53,840 you don't have like anything specific 3326 01:58:57,510 --> 01:58:56,480 like websites or anything like that but 3327 01:58:59,830 --> 01:58:57,520 uh 3328 01:59:02,149 --> 01:58:59,840 instagram you know i post a lot of what 3329 01:59:04,149 --> 01:59:02,159 i find on my instagram over the years 3330 01:59:06,229 --> 01:59:04,159 and that's kind of what led up to us 3331 01:59:10,070 --> 01:59:06,239 just filming it so i mean they can go to 3332 01:59:12,070 --> 01:59:10,080 my instagram which is a baby raven um 3333 01:59:14,310 --> 01:59:12,080 on instagram and i did grab the hoodoo 3334 01:59:15,510 --> 01:59:14,320 tall instagram account so either one of 3335 01:59:17,270 --> 01:59:15,520 those i 3336 01:59:18,790 --> 01:59:17,280 i'll still need to post some more up on 3337 01:59:19,830 --> 01:59:18,800 the who but yeah we don't really have 3338 01:59:22,950 --> 01:59:19,840 like a 3339 01:59:24,870 --> 01:59:22,960 definitive source of the stuff other 3340 01:59:27,109 --> 01:59:24,880 than the documentary right now 3341 01:59:28,950 --> 01:59:27,119 yeah yeah well that dude that's fine uh 3342 01:59:31,430 --> 01:59:28,960 everybody listening if you haven't seen 3343 01:59:35,030 --> 01:59:31,440 it yet go check out hoodoo tall 3344 01:59:38,149 --> 01:59:35,040 it's on youtube it's totally free you 3345 01:59:40,149 --> 01:59:38,159 can just go watch it it's got it it's 3346 01:59:41,990 --> 01:59:40,159 it's a lot man it's a lot there's a lot 3347 01:59:43,589 --> 01:59:42,000 of cool stuff in there yeah there's a 3348 01:59:45,830 --> 01:59:43,599 lot of cool stuff in there like you said 3349 01:59:49,270 --> 01:59:45,840 it's it's about four episodes worth of 3350 01:59:51,270 --> 01:59:49,280 stuff it's a little over three hours 3351 01:59:53,430 --> 01:59:51,280 yeah a lot of footprints a lot of talk a 3352 01:59:55,589 --> 01:59:53,440 lot of cool sky watching scenes and 3353 01:59:57,430 --> 01:59:55,599 things like that so you know guys go 3354 01:59:59,189 --> 01:59:57,440 check it out you know uh and he's not 3355 02:00:01,990 --> 01:59:59,199 lying ben and i have been in the exact 3356 02:00:04,149 --> 02:00:02,000 same house that he's hanging around and 3357 02:00:05,990 --> 02:00:04,159 all kinds of stuff so i have a picture 3358 02:00:08,709 --> 02:00:06,000 of the two of you in the documentary 3359 02:00:10,070 --> 02:00:08,719 when ashley is giving her a talk she did 3360 02:00:13,109 --> 02:00:10,080 mentions 3361 02:00:14,870 --> 02:00:13,119 me showing her a photo of an orb and 3362 02:00:16,470 --> 02:00:14,880 then i think we cut to the photo and 3363 02:00:18,310 --> 02:00:16,480 it's actually the two of you standing in 3364 02:00:20,229 --> 02:00:18,320 the field at the ranch with an orb above 3365 02:00:21,589 --> 02:00:20,239 one of your heads yeah yeah so thank you 3366 02:00:25,430 --> 02:00:21,599 i think you guys are in it from what i 3367 02:00:28,709 --> 02:00:25,440 remember yeah so awesome yeah man yes 3368 02:00:31,430 --> 02:00:28,719 you got to take care of the homies right 3369 02:00:33,430 --> 02:00:31,440 that's right man uh well bro this has 3370 02:00:35,669 --> 02:00:33,440 been freaking amazing uh thank you so 3371 02:00:36,950 --> 02:00:35,679 much for coming on with us oh yeah 3372 02:00:38,870 --> 02:00:36,960 absolutely 3373 02:00:41,430 --> 02:00:38,880 yeah yeah and uh we'll have to do this 3374 02:00:43,270 --> 02:00:41,440 again yeah and let's schedule up a time 3375 02:00:45,430 --> 02:00:43,280 where we can meet up and go explore 3376 02:00:46,629 --> 02:00:45,440 together sometime yes absolutely we'll 3377 02:00:48,229 --> 02:00:46,639 do that i'm going to send you guys uh 3378 02:00:49,990 --> 02:00:48,239 the dates my next trip after this so 3379 02:00:51,510 --> 02:00:50,000 you're you know when they are that'll 3380 02:00:53,189 --> 02:00:51,520 work dude that'll work well hey man it 3381 02:00:54,470 --> 02:00:53,199 was good talking to you and we'll see 3382 02:00:58,709 --> 02:00:54,480 you next time 3383 02:00:58,719 --> 02:01:04,149 heck yeah all right 3384 02:01:07,189 --> 02:01:05,350 yeah 3385 02:01:09,750 --> 02:01:07,199 that was a lot of fun 3386 02:01:12,470 --> 02:01:09,760 yeah dude that was awesome man dude um 3387 02:01:14,870 --> 02:01:12,480 that creature that they caught on film 3388 02:01:16,790 --> 02:01:14,880 that was a trip what 3389 02:01:18,629 --> 02:01:16,800 gave me some chills man 3390 02:01:21,430 --> 02:01:18,639 dude yeah 3391 02:01:23,589 --> 02:01:21,440 yeah yeah and that goddamn uh pantry 3392 02:01:26,709 --> 02:01:23,599 ghost that [\h__\h] 3393 02:01:30,709 --> 02:01:28,870 dude all i wanted was a snack i can't 3394 02:01:32,390 --> 02:01:30,719 even go get a snack without being scared 3395 02:01:35,990 --> 02:01:32,400 tonight i'm hungry 3396 02:01:38,550 --> 02:01:36,000 no dude i know man but uh yeah such cool 3397 02:01:41,430 --> 02:01:38,560 dudes uh you know got to meet damon in 3398 02:01:43,430 --> 02:01:41,440 vegas super cool dude uh 3399 02:01:46,149 --> 02:01:43,440 and when they said yeah we just finished 3400 02:01:48,310 --> 02:01:46,159 this documentary it just dropped today i 3401 02:01:50,310 --> 02:01:48,320 knew it was like well you got to come on 3402 02:01:52,709 --> 02:01:50,320 the show and talk about it dude over a 3403 02:01:55,350 --> 02:01:52,719 hundred thousand views so far that's 3404 02:01:57,270 --> 02:01:55,360 really good man i love it that's a lot 3405 02:01:58,870 --> 02:01:57,280 that's a lot that is so many views 3406 02:02:00,470 --> 02:01:58,880 that's awesome i love that it just kind 3407 02:02:02,390 --> 02:02:00,480 of i mean he was saying that they didn't 3408 02:02:05,270 --> 02:02:02,400 promote it they just kind of 3409 02:02:07,109 --> 02:02:05,280 posted it and just kind of caught on so 3410 02:02:08,229 --> 02:02:07,119 man that's so cool that makes you feel 3411 02:02:09,030 --> 02:02:08,239 kind of good 3412 02:02:11,750 --> 02:02:09,040 yeah 3413 02:02:14,550 --> 02:02:11,760 you know and also like i love the vibe 3414 02:02:16,470 --> 02:02:14,560 of it like a lot of uh uh shows or 3415 02:02:18,629 --> 02:02:16,480 documentaries just kind of like they 3416 02:02:21,430 --> 02:02:18,639 overdo it with like production of like 3417 02:02:23,750 --> 02:02:21,440 music and and like the pace is so damn 3418 02:02:26,070 --> 02:02:23,760 fast i like that it's it's got great 3419 02:02:27,430 --> 02:02:26,080 vibes like i'll be honest i didn't watch 3420 02:02:29,030 --> 02:02:27,440 like every second of it i was just kind 3421 02:02:31,030 --> 02:02:29,040 of like i had it on and i was like 3422 02:02:33,030 --> 02:02:31,040 working like oh that's cool i would like 3423 02:02:35,830 --> 02:02:33,040 back it up but it just made me feel 3424 02:02:37,990 --> 02:02:35,840 really calm and at peace and like it's 3425 02:02:39,830 --> 02:02:38,000 it was like you were on the journey with 3426 02:02:41,350 --> 02:02:39,840 them the whole time you know it wasn't 3427 02:02:43,189 --> 02:02:41,360 like you were just watching something it 3428 02:02:45,270 --> 02:02:43,199 was like you were actually there hanging 3429 02:02:47,430 --> 02:02:45,280 out with them yeah that's exactly what 3430 02:02:49,189 --> 02:02:47,440 it was like yeah yeah for sure yeah 3431 02:02:50,950 --> 02:02:49,199 definitely really cool man definitely 3432 02:02:52,870 --> 02:02:50,960 really cool 3433 02:02:55,589 --> 02:02:52,880 well heck yeah dude 3434 02:02:56,390 --> 02:02:55,599 uh another successful episode it's been 3435 02:02:59,990 --> 02:02:56,400 another 3436 02:03:04,629 --> 02:03:00,000 uh successful we've changed 3437 02:03:08,629 --> 02:03:06,790 with your written you know i mean it's 3438 02:03:10,870 --> 02:03:08,639 our show dude we can do whatever we want 3439 02:03:12,310 --> 02:03:10,880 we could change whatever dude 3440 02:03:14,709 --> 02:03:12,320 at any time 3441 02:03:18,229 --> 02:03:14,719 uh so uh 3442 02:03:20,709 --> 02:03:18,239 things happening next week monday on uh 3443 02:03:22,070 --> 02:03:20,719 so we're going it is monday yeah we're 3444 02:03:24,550 --> 02:03:22,080 going on uh 3445 02:03:27,430 --> 02:03:24,560 the my family thinks i'm crazy podcast 3446 02:03:29,830 --> 02:03:27,440 uh-huh so you guys if you probably 3447 02:03:32,070 --> 02:03:29,840 already subscribed to them uh that dude 3448 02:03:33,030 --> 02:03:32,080 i mean he's he's got a huge show he's 3449 02:03:34,629 --> 02:03:33,040 awesome 3450 02:03:35,669 --> 02:03:34,639 if you haven't listened to the show it's 3451 02:03:38,310 --> 02:03:35,679 great 3452 02:03:39,830 --> 02:03:38,320 um and yeah we'll we'll be on his show 3453 02:03:43,109 --> 02:03:39,840 on monday night dude 3454 02:03:45,750 --> 02:03:44,149 what's happening to something's 3455 02:03:47,270 --> 02:03:45,760 happening tuesday 3456 02:03:49,430 --> 02:03:47,280 we were supposed to do his show on a 3457 02:03:51,109 --> 02:03:49,440 tuesday 3458 02:03:53,589 --> 02:03:51,119 oh am i mixing it up 3459 02:03:59,030 --> 02:03:53,599 we have a show on tuesday hold up or do 3460 02:04:04,310 --> 02:04:01,189 uh 3461 02:04:06,390 --> 02:04:04,320 yes it is this coming tuesday not monday 3462 02:04:11,270 --> 02:04:06,400 because monday was this week 3463 02:04:15,350 --> 02:04:13,669 i have lynn show as the 16th 3464 02:04:17,270 --> 02:04:15,360 in my calendar 3465 02:04:19,350 --> 02:04:17,280 huh so i'm glad we didn't miss it yeah 3466 02:04:22,069 --> 02:04:19,360 that's wrong 3467 02:04:24,470 --> 02:04:22,079 so yeah next tuesday instead of doing 3468 02:04:27,189 --> 02:04:24,480 our show we're doing an uh yeah my 3469 02:04:28,550 --> 02:04:27,199 family thinks i'm crazy heck yeah so you 3470 02:04:30,390 --> 02:04:28,560 all go and uh 3471 02:04:33,669 --> 02:04:30,400 and check us out on that one and then 3472 02:04:37,510 --> 02:04:33,679 we'll be back thursday right 3473 02:04:38,390 --> 02:04:37,520 thursday with eric schlemmer uh 3474 02:04:40,550 --> 02:04:38,400 he's a 3475 02:04:41,910 --> 02:04:40,560 uh experiencer psychologist you might 3476 02:04:43,990 --> 02:04:41,920 have seen him on 3477 02:04:45,589 --> 02:04:44,000 twitter he's very active and posts 3478 02:04:49,430 --> 02:04:45,599 awesome stuff 3479 02:04:52,390 --> 02:04:49,440 look up eric it's a e-r-i-k 3480 02:04:54,069 --> 02:04:52,400 um he's a good guy i'm excited i'm i'm 3481 02:04:56,149 --> 02:04:54,079 so stoked to talk to him yeah i'm pretty 3482 02:04:58,229 --> 02:04:56,159 stoked too it's gonna be pretty awesome 3483 02:05:00,390 --> 02:04:58,239 yeah it's gonna be fun hell yeah man 3484 02:05:02,310 --> 02:05:00,400 well i think it's time to go mimi's for 3485 02:05:04,550 --> 02:05:02,320 hell yeah for that's what's up i'm 3486 02:05:06,390 --> 02:05:04,560 hungry i'm about to make some ramen 3487 02:05:08,310 --> 02:05:06,400 ramen yeah 3488 02:05:11,189 --> 02:05:08,320 i'm like i'm gonna like soft boil the 3489 02:05:14,709 --> 02:05:12,950 well then let's go down dude we better 3490 02:05:17,830 --> 02:05:14,719 get out of here then 3491 02:05:20,629 --> 02:05:17,840 hell yeah well hey hey everybody this 3492 02:05:22,950 --> 02:05:20,639 has been another episode of ufo garage 3493 02:05:26,020 --> 02:05:22,960 we'll see y'all next time see y'all next 3494 02:05:34,880 --> 02:05:26,030 time peace 3495 02:05:49,970 --> 02:05:37,670 [Applause]